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Running your own email is increasingly an artisanal choice, not a practical one
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Re: Running your own email is increasingly an artisanal choice, not a practical one
#162For example, Chrome & Firefox together will remove FTP protocol support because "stats suggests very few % people use it"
Re: Running your own email is increasingly an artisanal choice, not a practical one
#163Yeah I stopped running my own. I kept getting blocked by Microsoft in particular (mainly consumer recipients at live.com and outlook.com, strange enough not corporate O365 users!). I'm 100% sure I did not send any spam, the only emails going to those addresses were legit from a family member. DMARC and SPF were all set perfectly, relays blocked, I was not on any spamlist and I never have been either. Literally every…
I'm sorry this happened to you, but it's a shame. You end up giving money to your perpetrators and leaving the rest of us in the same situation you were in previously. Maybe a hosting coop could be an option? Large enough for reputation but ethical enough to still federate with smaller hosts?
You can actually get a free test tenant from MS for 3 months but setting up a real production environment is much better than doing some tests.
But yeah I feel lousy about it.
Re: Running your own email is increasingly an artisanal choice, not a practical one
#164Re: Running your own email is increasingly an artisanal choice, not a practical one
#165Someone should try "artisanal email server" using cloudron or yunohost ! the bigger problem is that "authoritative" email monopolies such as Gmail, 365 and the other big ones arbitrarily define and impose what is a legit email server or not and even with better score than gmail an "artisanal" email server can suffer from being classified into spam by the big tech players just because they can and will do anything to…
I hear this all the time, but I question how true it is. I've been running my own mail servers for decades, and I've never had any problems with sending or receiving mail. I suspect anyone who properly configures their server will be fine.
If I send an email to a corporation’s customer support, or to a distant relation, or to an open source mailing list, and I don’t get a reply, it could be a delivery problem - or it could just be that they didn’t decide to reply.
Re: Running your own email is increasingly an artisanal choice, not a practical one
#166Yeah I stopped running my own. I kept getting blocked by Microsoft in particular (mainly consumer recipients at live.com and outlook.com, strange enough not corporate O365 users!). I'm 100% sure I did not send any spam, the only emails going to those addresses were legit from a family member. DMARC and SPF were all set perfectly, relays blocked, I was not on any spamlist and I never have been either. Literally every…
I tried office 365 for email this year but couldn’t get the marketing emails from Microsoft under control. No matter how much time I spent trawling through the settings menus. Almost every email I got was about some security update or promotion from some ms product I did not use and had no intention of using. And I was paying for O365 too!
Re: Running your own email is increasingly an artisanal choice, not a practical one
#167Someone should try "artisanal email server" using cloudron or yunohost ! the bigger problem is that "authoritative" email monopolies such as Gmail, 365 and the other big ones arbitrarily define and impose what is a legit email server or not and even with better score than gmail an "artisanal" email server can suffer from being classified into spam by the big tech players just because they can and will do anything to…
I'm running an email server and I can tell you that this is by and large not the case. If you put some decent effort into making sure that you don't send spam, try to monitor if anyone thinks you send spam and react when someone complains that you send spam (and stop it), it works. In my experience people telling these stories often do send spam, but they don't believe they do. ("It's not spam, it's a Newsletter. No,…
Re: Running your own email is increasingly an artisanal choice, not a practical one
#168The fate of the Web will follow. For example, Chrome & Firefox together will remove FTP protocol support because "stats suggests very few % people use it"
Re: Running your own email is increasingly an artisanal choice, not a practical one
#169Someone should try "artisanal email server" using cloudron or yunohost ! the bigger problem is that "authoritative" email monopolies such as Gmail, 365 and the other big ones arbitrarily define and impose what is a legit email server or not and even with better score than gmail an "artisanal" email server can suffer from being classified into spam by the big tech players just because they can and will do anything to…
Re: Running your own email is increasingly an artisanal choice, not a practical one
#170Yeah I stopped running my own. I kept getting blocked by Microsoft in particular (mainly consumer recipients at live.com and outlook.com, strange enough not corporate O365 users!). I'm 100% sure I did not send any spam, the only emails going to those addresses were legit from a family member. DMARC and SPF were all set perfectly, relays blocked, I was not on any spamlist and I never have been either. Literally every…
You may just have been unlucky with your IP block having spammers. How were you hosting it - own ISP or another provider? I have not had deliverability issues for years with my Kimsufi (OVH France) server. While I am confident my server is well configured using best practices, I suspect some of it is also just luck not to be in the same IP block as a spammer.
I heard Kimsufi is indeed pretty bad as it's so cheap people tend to use it for 'throwaway' purposes. It's basically the white label budget brand of OVH :)