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Our obsession with non-obvious advice stems from our base addiction to novelty. For good reason, pathways in our brain become myelinated and more efficient the more often we use them, to the point where we can process well-worn thoughts almost subconsciously. Thus, toys we've played with too long become boring. Advice we've heard too many times before seems blah. We're hardwired to notice more when we encounter thing…

The best advice — real wisdom, in fact — is often readily available as platitudes on door mats or fridge magnets but they don’t resonate with us. Because real wisdom and the best advice is useless without a certain time and experience to recognize it, and a great deal of practice in putting it to life. I first recognized this learning to meditate. Life is impermanent and leads to suffering so stop cravings and avoidi…

Most advice is quite specific for people in certain circumstances and useless or even harmful for people outside those circumstances.

Should you save save up for retirement and be generally financially sensible? Of course, but there are plenty of exceptions. For example, for the terminally ill it is terrible advice, and neither is the traditional "save 10% of income and invest in index funds" advice applicable to newly minted millionaires who have just won the startup lottery.

"Turn the other cheek" is great advice 99% of the time, but terrible advice in a relationship with an abusive spouse.

"When in doubt, assume stupidity over malice" is extremely easy to abuse by malicious actors.

In general, even well-meaning advice givers on the internet often don't realize that their advice is not universally applicable or forget to add a warning label stating the same. (And, of course, not everyone on the internet is well-meaning in the first place)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fair, it is not truly unlimited, but for plenty of people (at least where I have worked) it has still ended up being 5-8 weeks a year. In contrast to the more traditional employers who say that you can start with two weeks and after 3 years of loyal service with no real raises, you can have three.

People I know take about four weeks a year. 8 weeks seems nuts. Do their managers push back all the deadlines related to their projects since they take a lot of vacation? I'd imagine managers don't even consider it and plan deadlines according to a typical (e.g., 50 weeks a year) worker output.

The managers indeed push back the deadlines or hire more people

Re: Most advice is pretty bad

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I agree with the title and disagree with the article. I was hoping the article was going to talk about how much advice comes from survivorship bias and people's general inability to see the difference between cause and correlation of what they are recommending and true effect. On this subject, I could rant. As others have pointed, "non-obvious advice" doesn't inherently have any reason it's better. The vast majority…

> Take diet. I think you'd be hard pressed to find people who said salads were unhealthy. I believe most know that they would lead to less heart problems in the US, they are cheaper, and would help lose weight.

Eating things doesn't help you lose weight.

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"Even for us, though, we can often increase our impact a lot by improving our generalized effectiveness."

This rings of Scott Adams' 'Talent Stack'. He posits that having expertise in multiple, unrelated fields both expands your generalized knowledge and helps you stand out in the combination of talents you possess. One example of a real person is one who holds expertise in artistry (oil painting), mechanical engineering, and cycling.

If I were to claim my own, it would be program management, poker and music.

Re: Most advice is pretty bad

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fair, it is not truly unlimited, but for plenty of people (at least where I have worked) it has still ended up being 5-8 weeks a year. In contrast to the more traditional employers who say that you can start with two weeks and after 3 years of loyal service with no real raises, you can have three.

People I know take about four weeks a year. 8 weeks seems nuts. Do their managers push back all the deadlines related to their projects since they take a lot of vacation? I'd imagine managers don't even consider it and plan deadlines according to a typical (e.g., 50 weeks a year) worker output.

I haven't ever worked for a company with hard deadlines. Always enterprise software, so delays are of seemingly no consequence.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The best advice — real wisdom, in fact — is often readily available as platitudes on door mats or fridge magnets but they don’t resonate with us. Because real wisdom and the best advice is useless without a certain time and experience to recognize it, and a great deal of practice in putting it to life. I first recognized this learning to meditate. Life is impermanent and leads to suffering so stop cravings and avoidi…

Most advice is quite specific for people in certain circumstances and useless or even harmful for people outside those circumstances. Should you save save up for retirement and be generally financially sensible? Of course, but there are plenty of exceptions. For example, for the terminally ill it is terrible advice, and neither is the traditional "save 10% of income and invest in index funds" advice applicable to new…

> Should you save save up for retirement and be generally financially sensible? ... For example, for the terminally ill it is terrible advice

No it's not terrible advice. People that are terminally ill will quite commonly have loved ones that can benefit after their passing from their being financially prudent rather than spendthrift. That can involve children, young adults, widow/ers, and all manner of contexts (disabled brother that you've helped across your lifetime, and you worry about their situation after you're gone).

Re: Most advice is pretty bad

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In my experience, I usually either get good advice that I'm not ready to act upon, or get bad advice because of a lack of good shared context. There is also a good amount of bad advice, but I rarely seek advice anyway so it doesn't amount to much. Perhaps take the post with a grain of salt, or on its own premise.

Re: Most advice is pretty bad

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Our obsession with non-obvious advice stems from our base addiction to novelty. For good reason, pathways in our brain become myelinated and more efficient the more often we use them, to the point where we can process well-worn thoughts almost subconsciously. Thus, toys we've played with too long become boring. Advice we've heard too many times before seems blah. We're hardwired to notice more when we encounter thing…

I myself like Mary Schmich's definition of advice from the "Wear Sunscreen" column:

> Be careful whose advice you buy, but be patient with those who supply it. Advice is a form of nostalgia. Dispensing it is a way of fishing the past from the disposal, wiping it off, painting over the ugly parts and recycling it for more than it's worth.

[1] https://www.chicagotribune.com/columns/chi-schmich-sunscreen...

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