Seeing this reminds me of a link I posted recently. This youtube video features investigation into supposed concentration camps in Xinjiang: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cI8bJO-to8I I'm posting it again because it seems like the kind of video that needs to be seen.
Intel apologises in China over Xinjiang supplier statement
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You pretend to be unaware of false arrest, fabricated evidence, bad representation, and over-sentencing of underclass people. US citizens are not uniquely criminal, but US incarceration rate is by far highest in the world. You don't get there justly.
"US citizens are not uniquely criminal" US citizens are absolutely uniquely criminal. The violent gun murder rate in the US is 5x what it is European countries. Those are stats based on deaths, not criminal prosecutions. The number of 'high speed chases' etc. is considerably higher. In some 'high crime / poverty' areas of the US, the amount of crime again is multiples of those of other nations. Moreover, the US has t…
The people convicted of crimes in the US are not inherently worse people than their counterparts in other countries. We have more crime because we have chosen to have more crime, blamed them, and incarcerated them because we have chosen to have that. In other countries people have made better choices, with a better outcome.
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Surprisingly, there are a lot of strikes, labour issues, and general unrest in China. Instead of thinking about it like a 'Orwellian State' - think of it more like an Orwellian State that could go 'off' at anytime. Note that citizens are concerned about their prosperity - as long as growth is happening and money comes in - they are content. But they are also ultra nationalist and ultra ethnocentric to the point where…
I have a sinking feeling that something horrible is going to hit China in, say, the next two-three decades. Not sure whether it'll be a cultural shift, economic collapse, but I think the way they're structured once it starts to falter it's going to explode in a really unpleasant way. Like exceeding Mao-level deaths. The West is messier, in a lot of ways, but I think they're more fault-tolerant.
Welcome to the club, have a seat: https://preview.redd.it/1fq4rrk5ih921.jpg?width=800&auto=web...
> , but I think the way they're structured once it starts to falter it's going to explode in a really unpleasant way. Like exceeding Mao-level deaths.
A wish is not an adecuate tool to forecast the future.
> The West is messier, in a lot of ways, but I think they're more fault-tolerant.
As shown by the COVID crisis
Great, high quality, intellectually estimulating conversation in this thread.
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I picked up USA made waffle iron from C. Palmer Manufacturing. It's super basic and almost 2-3x more expensive than the first few results on Amazon, but it's great! ( https://cpalmermfg.com/waffle-irons.html ) Hope that helps with your waffle making.
At first I suspected made in USA could mean assembled in USA from Chinese castings and other parts. But man is it so freaking satisfying to see at the top of the page next to "About us" is a link to their tool and die shop. They're a freaking casting shop that decided to make waffle makers. Fantastic.
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There is no reason to expect human-like behaviour and traits from organisations.
And yet we deem it appropriate to grant them personhood in the eyes of the law.
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Does it matter? A pretext is a pretext. In fact, there have been a great many Americans railroaded into prison for, essentially, being Muslim, for refusing to try to entice other Muslims to engage in attempts at domestic terrorism so that they can be imprisoned, just to burnish somebody's resume. But mostly black people are railroaded into prison for being black. Do you imagine that is less bad?
"A pretext is a pretext." ???? No. A 'crime' is a legitimate pretext for putting someone in jail. Being of a certain ethnicity is not a reason for putting someone in jail. I can't believe I am reading this. And your statements about 'putting Muslims in jail for being Muslim' and But mostly 'black people are railroaded into prison for being black' are completely false. People are put in jail for crimes, whereupon the…
You seem to be insisting that racism does not exist in the US. Noted.
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Personally, I'm most angry that Intel refuses to properly audit their suppliers. They're not actually banned from importing goods from Xinjiang if they can prove that they weren't made with forced labor. If they could prove that, the US government should be happy (because their stated goal of combating forced labor is respected) and Chinese people should be happy, too (better working conditions). Merely restricting s…
I don't think it's that simple. For example BCI performed multiple audits since 2012 and hasn't found a single case of forced labor.[1][2] Despite that, they've pulled back from Xinjiang. Companies don't want to deal with Xinjiang just so they can avoid controversies, regardless of actual facts. Also, the Xinjiang Forced Labor Prevention Act is based on the maxim of guilty-until-proven-innocent. There is no way to co…
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> It's also become increasingly difficult, and in some cases nigh impossible, to avoid items from China. I have the opposite experience. I find it's becoming increasingly easy. I'm finding myself surprised that most things aren't made in china. So far the only thing I haven't been able to get was a waffle maker -- I can do without! Or I should just actually get a $300 waffle maker instead of something stupid that wil…
> The hardest to find was a power drill. Depending on where you live and what you like....DeWalt and high end Craftsman make drills in the USA. Makita makes some in Japan. I believe Bosch does some in Germany, but don't quote me on that.
Sadly the battery packs are still made in china though.
Battery tech seems to be a big problem in general.
Re: Intel apologises in China over Xinjiang supplier statement
#400Seeing this reminds me of a link I posted recently. This youtube video features investigation into supposed concentration camps in Xinjiang: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cI8bJO-to8I I'm posting it again because it seems like the kind of video that needs to be seen.