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Grindr €6.5M fined for not collecting users’ valid consent for sharing data

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Re: Grindr €6.5M fined for not collecting users’ valid consent for sharing data

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Post by cjfd »

oytis wrote: post #15
j_san wrote: post #2

The Norwegian Data Protection Authority imposed a fine of €6,500,000 on Grindr for not collecting users' valid consent for sharing data with third parties for profiling and advertising purposes from the Grindr App. Particularly interesting is that it is not allowed under GDPR to have a free version of an app with the condition that it shares personal data (in this case for targeting and profiling for ads) as the cons…

Interesting indeed, it is what several German online newspapers do - they let you choose between a free version with tracking and a paid one without one. I find this argument a bit weird though: > Sharing Grindr's users personal data with advertising partners for online behavioural advertising purposes was not necessary for the performance of the Grindr's services. Charging money for your services is also not necessa…

The 'data is payment' thing sounds terrible. What if it really goes south and this data is involved in some identity theft? Then the criminal justice system needs to get involved at enormous cost to tax payers. Therefore, there actually is an interest of the state that all this data should not be roaming around freely.

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Post by imwillofficial »

rvnx wrote: post #98
kryogen1c wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

neat, this analogy travels pretty far - user data is radioactive. theres a background amount of radiation. its everywhere, even in higher amounts than youd expect like bananas and airplanes. no amount is safe, but the risks are neglibly small when exposure is minimized. concentrated amounts can be safe when exposure is controlled and managed with oversight programs in place. disasters can be managed with disaster pro…

Isn't the typical storage and handling for Uranium quite safe and even safer than oil ? Triuranium octoxide (Yellowcake): Yellowcake is as radiologically harmless as natural potassium-carrying minerals or thorium-oxide mantles used in paraffin fuel lanterns.

Think nuclear reactors, not yellowcake.

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Post by charcircuit »

jacquesm wrote: post #47
charcircuit wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>What aspect of GDPR is troublesome to you? It tries to restrict data. Information wants to be free. It has no owner.

What is this, Slashdot ca 1996? Private information in fact does have an owner: the user that it reflects on.

Once you share information it is no longer private unless you put that person under an NDA or something similar.

If you meant personal information then that doesn't make sense either. No one owns the fact that George Washington was male. It is just a statement that could be true or false. George Washington has no control over me spreading this information. Especially since he is dead.

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Post by charcircuit »

jacquesm wrote: post #30
charcircuit wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or you could see it as operating in the EU is a liability. If you don't handle data in just the way they like they will come after you.

The EU is merely leading the way here, you can expect all of the developed world to have similar data protection laws on the books sooner or later. And if you think that treating data in the proper way is hard then you probably shouldn't be in business at all. Operating in the EU is not a liability if you treat your users data in a respectful and responsible way. Common sense alone would answer your questions on what…

>And if you think that treating data in the proper way is hard then you probably shouldn't be in business at all.

The EUs definition of the proper way isn't a universal definition and it conflicts with the way I view that data should be treated.

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Post by sippeangelo »

nickpp wrote: post #157
Vespasian wrote: post #19

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Because society decided that it shouldn't be. It's a political decision that charging money (or displaying not personalized ads) is preferably.

This hurts most people with less money to pay, as they can’t access the service otherwise.

It exploits most people with less money to pay, as they're not privileged enough to access the service otherwise.

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Post by jacquesm »

charcircuit wrote: post #204
jacquesm wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is this, Slashdot ca 1996? Private information in fact does have an owner: the user that it reflects on.

Once you share information it is no longer private unless you put that person under an NDA or something similar. If you meant personal information then that doesn't make sense either. No one owns the fact that George Washington was male. It is just a statement that could be true or false. George Washington has no control over me spreading this information. Especially since he is dead.

You have a completely unique idea about the meaning of 'privacy', you may want to adjust your definition to the one that the rest of the world works so that we can have meaningful conversations.

George Washington's gender is of no consideration whatsoever in this discussion, so bringing it up is a variation on the theme of the strawman.

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Post by jacquesm »

charcircuit wrote: post #205
jacquesm wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The EU is merely leading the way here, you can expect all of the developed world to have similar data protection laws on the books sooner or later. And if you think that treating data in the proper way is hard then you probably shouldn't be in business at all. Operating in the EU is not a liability if you treat your users data in a respectful and responsible way. Common sense alone would answer your questions on what…

>And if you think that treating data in the proper way is hard then you probably shouldn't be in business at all. The EUs definition of the proper way isn't a universal definition and it conflicts with the way I view that data should be treated.

How you view it is irrelevant: it's the law.

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Post by charcircuit »

MauranKilom wrote: post #80
charcircuit wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>What aspect of GDPR is troublesome to you? It tries to restrict data. Information wants to be free. It has no owner.

Then would you mind posting a dump of your email archive here? Or does that data have an owner?

You can't upload files here and why should I do the work to dump it and give this potentially valuable information to you for free?
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