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A Survey of Programmers' Cannabis Usage, Perception, and Motivation

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Re: A Survey of Programmers' Cannabis Usage, Perception, and Motivation

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I got my three kids desks for christmas. Put them down to bed for the night and smoke a little weed. I was shocked how I couldn’t follow ikea desk instructions. Got frustrated and decided to try again sober. I was super shocked the next day how easy it was to follow when sober.

same. complex logical thinking is quite hard. but feeling is great. listening high to classical sound sometimes opens the story, the memory or the feelings the creator wanted to transport. for example. so, a day in remote-meetings can be quite nice high, a complex migration hardly.. €dit: could we pair our experiences with our "handed"-style? i'm strongly lefthanded. i have a theory, with left handeds the possibility…

For me I find that pot reduces background noise in my mind that would otherwise prevent me from becoming extremely focused.

When I'm high I can follow the instructions so hard that I won't notice a person standing next to me addressing me by name.

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The only time that canabis helps me personally at work is when I am almost at a burn out. Smoking on the weekend (not while working) it gives me a fresh start the next week, well rested. Never helped me to be a better developer while high, actually for me it is the oposit.

Re: A Survey of Programmers' Cannabis Usage, Perception, and Motivation

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> Furthermore, this cannabis usage is primarily motivated by a perceived enhancement to certain software development skills (such as brainstorming or getting into a programming zone) rather than medicinal reasons How can anyone who has tried it remotely believe this nonsense?

I’ve tried weed, got addicted to it in college and have seen many people do the same. It made me lazy, completely unmotivated and unproductive. All I did was watch Anime and eat unhealthy foods. Contrary to the notion that you can think about great ideas and brainstorming - it’s amazing when you’re high. Write down those ideas and think about them when sober - I quickly realized how foolish they were. Concentration a…

I think your experience probably mimics most experience but years of hanging around people who smoked a lot showed me that it really does affect everyone differently.

I hear people talk about it like it's a miracle drug for pain management, but for me it makes pain worse. I spend the entire time focused on every pain in my body.

I knew a guy who concentrated on problems and coded better when he was stoned. Another who was an amazing chess player and had to smoke before he could play. Others who mixed records and played music while high and it enhanced their abilities. I tried to DJ techno once while high and it was a horrible trainwreck, and I can't focus more than 30 seconds at a time. I wrote a paper in university while high and it was the worst crap I ever wrote. Others swear by it.

Many of my friends were super social and enjoyed going out and doing things. It always made me paranoid, overly self-critical, and I spent the whole time taking myself apart and feeling sad.

So I didn't smoke it for almost 20 years. I tried it again recently now that it's legal here. Basically the same experience, even with "low THC, high CBD" strains.

It really comes down to YMMV. And yes, I saw many people with the same experience as you, including a close relative. Unproductive, unmotivated, and low concentration, and chronic.

Re: A Survey of Programmers' Cannabis Usage, Perception, and Motivation

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post #34

> 29% of our sample reported they had taken a drug test for a programming-related job Wow, That seems so high. I don't know anyone in my circle of friends who was drug tested. Although, we are all on the west coast.

I took one for both of my corporate jobs, and that was over thirty years ago. Not new.

That’s a pretty old sample. The war on drugs was full throttle 30 years ago. Boomers were the millennials and the greatest generation had all the real power. Their straight laced policies were on everything.

These days it’s 50/50 for me. Depending on how conservative the corp culture is. But I work in finance and could literally embezzle their money. I’m actually surprised when i don’t get drug tested.

Re: A Survey of Programmers' Cannabis Usage, Perception, and Motivation

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A personal anecdote; I don't find Cannabis useful for difficult problem solving, but for more repetitive tasks like writing unit tests it's a fun way to pass the time.

Yeah the only uses I've ever found for cannabis was: doing the dishes and going to sleep.

Re: A Survey of Programmers' Cannabis Usage, Perception, and Motivation

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> Furthermore, this cannabis usage is primarily motivated by a perceived enhancement to certain software development skills (such as brainstorming or getting into a programming zone) rather than medicinal reasons How can anyone who has tried it remotely believe this nonsense?

I’ve tried weed, got addicted to it in college and have seen many people do the same. It made me lazy, completely unmotivated and unproductive. All I did was watch Anime and eat unhealthy foods. Contrary to the notion that you can think about great ideas and brainstorming - it’s amazing when you’re high. Write down those ideas and think about them when sober - I quickly realized how foolish they were. Concentration a…

Sounds like my experience but I was using it at the time to cope with depression and anxiety about graduating from college amid the late 2000's financial crisis and other stresses you deal with as a lonely young adult.

But I also never really stopped smoking and learned to use it to cope with a multitude of things like migraines and sleeplessness.

In the end it often comes down to the person and their reactions to a substance more than the substance itself. I can smoke and melt on the couch or I can smoke and go for a long walk and decompress.

Re: A Survey of Programmers' Cannabis Usage, Perception, and Motivation

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I got my three kids desks for christmas. Put them down to bed for the night and smoke a little weed. I was shocked how I couldn’t follow ikea desk instructions. Got frustrated and decided to try again sober. I was super shocked the next day how easy it was to follow when sober.

Drugs significantly alter cognitive processes and perceptions. I know that reads like a duh comment because that's literally why people take them, but it's amazing how frequently drugs users forget that the drugs alter their perceptions of how the drug is impacting their lives.

I've fortunately only had a few of my friends succumb to addictions, but it was surreal to watch them remain convinced that the drugs (including alcohol) were actually helping their performance, relationships, and productivity while everyone around them could clearly see that the opposite was happening.

One of the most striking examples is benzodiazepine abuse. Benzos famously mislead users into a false sense of sobriety even when they may be so inebriated that they struggle to accomplish basic tasks.

Within the tech scene, I've also noticed this with LSD microdosing. The few people I know who (openly) tried it were convinced they were smarter and more productive while microdosing, but it was objectively clear to everyone else that they were thinking more slowly, generally more confused, making more mistakes, and so on. The difference is that the drug convinced them that everything they accomplished was a wonderful achievement that made them happy, which led them to perceptions that they were accomplishing more on those days.

I see similar trends in acquaintances with excessive marijuana habits: A general belief that the drug is helping them do more of the things they want to do, but they're clearly doing very little on the days they smoke. Obvious from the outside, hard to see from the inside when your perceptions are being bent to extremes.

Re: A Survey of Programmers' Cannabis Usage, Perception, and Motivation

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> Furthermore, this cannabis usage is primarily motivated by a perceived enhancement to certain software development skills (such as brainstorming or getting into a programming zone) rather than medicinal reasons How can anyone who has tried it remotely believe this nonsense?

This has basically been my experience with it... the actual act of typing out code goes slower, but my ideas are more fluid and I'm able to "see" the whole picture more clearly. I think the slowness is more to do with having more ideas and noticing more details and possibilities than otherwise, so I have to spend more time sorting through all that.

Re: A Survey of Programmers' Cannabis Usage, Perception, and Motivation

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Used to smoke daily for 20+ years. Nobody should kid themselves that pot makes you "stupid", for lack of a better term.

Also puts me in a really bad mood the next day - short tempered, even aggressive.

On rare occasions it does help with brainstorming, looking at things differently. But mostly it's good for forgetting about your day and just going to bed.

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