I have to be honest. I view NFTs as one of the dumbest things to come out of the crypto space. I see the use cases, but frankly I don’t think it’s innovative nor does it solve something in a really unique way. Part of the point of digital assets are that they can be copied. If you don’t want to copy them, you can validate with the issuing authority (which is virtually all NFTs as it is).
I had this opinion too, but if you think about something like trading cards or any other “limited” collectibles that were mass produced, rather than one of a kind art, it’s sort of the same thing with regards to artificial scarcity.
NFT Replicas: An app to mint a replica of virtually any NFT
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#62Earlier quoted context omitted.
Tbh, a large part of the art market can indeed be called a scam that only exists as a tax evasion opportunity. Maybe that shouldn’t be the template for the so called Web3.
However even HN must admit the art world is a real industry, with a lot of big money players, and the reason things have value is not in the quality of the art. I see the same argument rehashed over and over, and it's the same reason HN as a collective never understood or embraced crypto in general - a total lack of understanding combined with a total lack of imagination.
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How can you tell the whether a given piece is original? You'd have to build a database of all NFTs in order to check. And perhaps the new image is slightly altered making it original.
You see that it was minted by Wallet X, which the artist has confirmed is theirs. The image it's pointing to is irrelevant. You're buying a unique digital signature. Is it inherently valuable? No, but it's scarce. There's only one such entry on the blockchain and it can only be owned by one wallet at a time.
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#64A Michael Jordan rookie card is worth tens to hundreds of thousands of dollars depending on grade. If I print a Michael Jordan rookie card onto cardstock, it will be worth basically nothing. The reason that something is valuable to collectors is the social contract between creator and recipient. The value in NFTs exists by that same social contract. You can't ignore that relationship when criticizing them, otherwise…
I also find that when we start applying analogies to something as an argument we are detaching from the reality of what we have. It is meant to simplify, and appeal to people who are not familiar with the topic at hand. No matter how wrong the analogy is (or right) we are inherently shifting the conversations to something different. I know this analogy is trying to say an NFT is scarce, but it IS quite different than a Michael Jordan rookie card in its execution, management, and a lot of the things that make a Michael Jordan rookie card worth hundreds of thousands of dollars.
Re: NFT Replicas: An app to mint a replica of virtually any NFT
#65I have to be honest. I view NFTs as one of the dumbest things to come out of the crypto space. I see the use cases, but frankly I don’t think it’s innovative nor does it solve something in a really unique way. Part of the point of digital assets are that they can be copied. If you don’t want to copy them, you can validate with the issuing authority (which is virtually all NFTs as it is).
> I view NFTs as one of the dumbest things to come out of the crypto space. To understand the space, you need to come to terms with the fact that asking "is this a legitimate human need" isn't a useful or relevant question. Instead, you need to ask, "for people who are already demonstrating that they have this human need, does this technology enable that need to be met more efficiently." You might think the human nee…
I think the original comment isn’t arguing that “this isn’t a legitimate human need.” I think it’s arguing that neither the tech is innovative nor the offered solution is unique.
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It makes for mega cringe lords like Gary Vee. Dude is like 60 and dresses like a Fortnite teenager so he can peddle NFTs to kids as an investment strategy. I always found him to be annoying and the NFT space basically confirmed it.
He's 46. I think NFT's are laughable, but if you're gonna play the agism card, at least get the details right.
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#67I have to be honest. I view NFTs as one of the dumbest things to come out of the crypto space. I see the use cases, but frankly I don’t think it’s innovative nor does it solve something in a really unique way. Part of the point of digital assets are that they can be copied. If you don’t want to copy them, you can validate with the issuing authority (which is virtually all NFTs as it is).
I had this opinion too, but if you think about something like trading cards or any other “limited” collectibles that were mass produced, rather than one of a kind art, it’s sort of the same thing with regards to artificial scarcity.
They're receipts showing that you "own" the card on display in the public square. And more than one receipt can be minted for that card. The most you can hope for is the earliest timestamp on the receipt.
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#68> The price for a replica starts at 0.001 ETH. Each time a particular NFT piece is replicated, its next replication cost will double. So be sure to replicate popular pieces early! So who gets the replication fees? Is this just a cash grab by the authors of the site?
It's crypto. The entire idea is a cash grab.
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#69Earlier quoted context omitted.
They are not copies though. They are replicas. The original is still unique. You're buying an entry on the blockchain and the scarcity of that is real.
> the scarcity of that is real. Scarcity on it's own does not equal value. The value comes either from social consensus or direct utility. Real numbers are scarce. There's only one of each.
This gives me ideas! Who wants to join me in this new fad?
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#70The most interesting aspect of NFTs IMO is that they explore what ownership really means. Is it physically possessing something? Is it a receipt? Is it provenance? Is it the ability to destroy something permanently? Is it the ability to deny others access? Is it irrefutable and verifiable proof, without trusting any single entity, that an entity holds an exclusive status relative to a good?