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Re: Krita 5.0

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Post by raghukamath »

Kliment wrote: post #10
01walid wrote: post #8

How does Krita compare to Gimp at this point? (Since someone on the comments here said it can be a Photoshop drop-in replacement)

There's exactly one thing I still prefer to do in Gimp - splitting a single image into multiple images, one per RGBA/HSL channel. There's also some image formats that Gimp supports that Krita does not. But that's it. There's nothing else I miss, and Krita is just incredibly far ahead on usability.

> splitting a single image into multiple images

There is Image menu > Image split in Krita

Re: Krita 5.0

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Post by raghukamath »

hallarempt wrote: post #29
Kliment wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's exactly one thing I still prefer to do in Gimp - splitting a single image into multiple images, one per RGBA/HSL channel. There's also some image formats that Gimp supports that Krita does not. But that's it. There's nothing else I miss, and Krita is just incredibly far ahead on usability.

Layer->Split Layer got some love for this release, too, but I'm not sure whether it even made it into the release notes.

I think they are talking about Image > Image split

Re: Krita 5.0

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Post by pxc »

ognarb wrote: post #47

Congrats for the release! Krita is one of the most awesome KDE apps and it's really nice to see so much new features in this release.

Even though I don't have much use for it now that I'm out of school, Krita and the Calligra Office suite make up one of the reasons I've been a KDE user forever. The most prominent KDE apps have long done an amazing job, imo, of making tons of functionality accessible in a way that feels orderly and approachable rather than chaotic and cluttered.

Amarok was this way, which made it just incredible when the most common way to listen to music was local collections.

When Dolphin came out, it seemed like a harmonization of Konqueror's massive featureset along the same lines.

Some apps are a little bit messier (Kate, Konsole) but are still way more orderly and easy to explore than popular alternatives on Windows despite matching or beating them on features.

I feel like this aspect of KDE apps is often undersold. Outside of KDE, I hardly ever find anything as powerful as a mature KDE app whose UI isn't just an overwhelming hodgepodge of menus. Krita seems like a leader when it comes to this approach to adding features but in a thoughtful way.

Re: Krita 5.0

#54

Post by johnny53169 »

whatshisface wrote: post #43
01walid wrote: post #8

How does Krita compare to Gimp at this point? (Since someone on the comments here said it can be a Photoshop drop-in replacement)

Krita has an amazingly frustrating text handling experience. It's the one major thing that makes me open GIMP. The font size never seems to stick.

They fixed the font handling in this release

Re: Krita 5.0

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Post by depereo »

pessimizer wrote: post #37
archerx wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe Gimp has one of the worst UI/UX ever made? I still stand by my theory that gimp was made as a troll program to see how far people will defend opensource no matter how objectively bad it is to use.

As somebody who uses Photoshop for a living, I prefer the GIMP. The GIMP falls down on a few major features, not on usability. I can also see how Photoshop as the standard has broken people's brains so much that the concept of "intuitive" becomes entirely lost. It's not as bad as Illustrator, but features are just randomly thrown everywhere; the only reason I'm fast at it is from hard-won experience. It's impossible…

I've never used Photoshop and gimp confuses the hell out of me. I installed krita a year ago for my simple editing tasks and never once had to search online for 'how do I....'

Re: Krita 5.0

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Post by hallarempt »

pxc wrote: post #48
unixhero wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't find your blanket statement accurate. It is suitable for both applications, painting and photo editing. I have used it strictly for photo editing professionally and privately and it works flawlessly. Highly recommended. I use the knowledge I have from my Photoshop days and apply them in Krita, no issues there. For me it is a Photoshop drop-in replacement.

Before Krita was 'marketed' as a digital painting app, it was described and used as an alternative to GIMP and Photoshop. At some point (in the 2010s?) there was a decision to refocus on digital painting, I think maybe because of the difficulty of keeping up with the expansive featureset of something like Photoshop or GIMP (and maybe the additional difficulty of still keeping a focused, pleasant UI). But it's not lik…

Nah, the change was mostly because painting is what I'm most interested in, and I was -- and am -- the maintainer :-)

Re: Krita 5.0

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Post by jcelerier »

bitbang wrote: post #31
oAlbe wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To me, the thing that brings me back to Krita over and over is that fact that it's intuitive to use. I've been trying to use GIMP for the past 10 years and still have no idea how to resize an image/canvas or where the heck the crop tool is. In Krita those things are exactly where I end up looking for them.

Seriously? I can understand people having trouble adapting to a different layering model, but cropping? If over 10 years you haven't been able to figure out Image -> Crop to selection then either it's a real accomplishment they you can cloth yourself in the morning, or this is just willful ignorance.

> then either it's a real accomplishment they you can cloth yourself in the morning, or this is just willful ignorance.

no, this is what the average user looks like. Most people had trouble with TV remotes until they started making them with 4/5 buttons at most.

Re: Krita 5.0

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Post by dagmx »

01walid wrote: post #8

How does Krita compare to Gimp at this point? (Since someone on the comments here said it can be a Photoshop drop-in replacement)

Krita is a better painting and animation program than GIMP. It also has much better scripting and color space support.

GIMP is easier/better at 8 bit image editing though.

Re: Krita 5.0

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Post by dagmx »

scriptproof wrote: post #12

I looked at the script language, SeExpr. Look like PHP with math functions. Is this really better than what we have in HTML Canvas?

For reference, SeExpr is only used for a certain amount of scripting (usually around pattern generations etc). It's an industry standard in visual effects and animation workflows and was created by Disney; http://wdas.github.io/SeExpr/

It is not used for general purpose scripting, for which Krita allows you to write Python scripts instead.

Re: Krita 5.0

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Post by yyyk »

raffraffraff wrote: post #22
oAlbe wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To me, the thing that brings me back to Krita over and over is that fact that it's intuitive to use. I've been trying to use GIMP for the past 10 years and still have no idea how to resize an image/canvas or where the heck the crop tool is. In Krita those things are exactly where I end up looking for them.

Wife still uses Photoshop CS 2 on Windows, and I've basically told her that when her computer dies, she's getting Linux and open source software, or she's gonna have to figure out Windows 11 by herself and pay the subscription for Adobe. "Fine with Linux" she says, since it's installed on other computers in the house, "... but what can I use instead of Photoshop?". "Use Gimp, of course!" I say, and install it on her…

It shouldn't be difficult to set up a VM for Windows + Photoshop CS2.
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