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Grindr €6.5M fined for not collecting users’ valid consent for sharing data

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Re: Grindr €6.5M fined for not collecting users’ valid consent for sharing data

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The sooner companies start to realize that personal data is a liability rather than an asset the better. Happy to see this fine, but as far as I'm concerned given the kind of data we're talking about here it should have been higher.

I'd rather let people freely decide what they want to do with their data. But this is no longer possible in Europe unfortunately.

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Re: Grindr €6.5M fined for not collecting users’ valid consent for sharing data

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>What aspect of GDPR is troublesome to you? It tries to restrict data. Information wants to be free. It has no owner.

Then would you mind posting a dump of your email archive here? Or does that data have an owner?

Fantastic way of putting it.

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#113

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Think of it as the law catching up with technology. > No business is interested in having to suddenly comply with such regulations and essentially no longer being able to utilize the data of individuals however they please. Indeed, hence the need for regulation. > Ergo, corporate interests will probably lead to lots of lobbying in this regard, just look at what happened with net neutrality and the advertising around…

> since EU citizens will be enjoying those protections and US citizens will not eventually this will translate into an advantage for companies doing business from the EU and into the US. For that reason alone there will be a big incentive for the US to make a law that is symmetrical to remove this advantage. Given the lack of similar regulation in the US despite the situation being so bad that unsolicited spam subsid…

Politicians are data subjects too. They are in this boat right along with everybody else.

Re: Grindr €6.5M fined for not collecting users’ valid consent for sharing data

#114

The sooner companies start to realize that personal data is a liability rather than an asset the better. Happy to see this fine, but as far as I'm concerned given the kind of data we're talking about here it should have been higher.

I'd rather let people freely decide what they want to do with their data. But this is no longer possible in Europe unfortunately.

It's the opposite, actually. I have no idea how you came to this conclusion.

Re: Grindr €6.5M fined for not collecting users’ valid consent for sharing data

#115

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I remember someone here putting it this way: treat user data like uranium, not oil. Both are valuable, but you don’t want to just collect and store an unlimited amount of uranium. Collect the bare minimum user data you need to operate your business and then dispose of it when it’s no longer needed.

You can collect as much data as you like, its what you do with it that counts.

I mean, you can say that about residentially-stored explosives, too.

This isn't about what one can do, it is about what is prudent. Grindr just learned a lesson about the difference.

Re: Grindr €6.5M fined for not collecting users’ valid consent for sharing data

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We also got laid before the invention of the smartphone, you know...

We're also deep in a pandemic where olden times means of socialization are pretty restricted. I'm not gonna walk into a bar in 2021 to be assaulted by smoke, sound, and covid. Just the smoke and sound has been enough to keep me out of them for over a decade now.

Each to their own, I guess. I liked our dirty old ways and the fact that no Silicon Valley creep could spy on our intimate relations.

Re: Grindr €6.5M fined for not collecting users’ valid consent for sharing data

#117

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The EU is merely leading the way here, you can expect all of the developed world to have similar data protection laws on the books sooner or later. And if you think that treating data in the proper way is hard then you probably shouldn't be in business at all. Operating in the EU is not a liability if you treat your users data in a respectful and responsible way. Common sense alone would answer your questions on what…

> The EU is merely leading the way here, you can expect all of the developed world to have similar data protection laws on the books sooner or later. While i do believe in being privacy conscious, i don't believe that this will be the case anytime soon (or at least until a generational shift happens). No business is interested in having to suddenly comply with such regulations and essentially no longer being able to…

> No business is interested in having to suddenly comply with such regulations

jesus christ. enough with this bullshit.

Data protection laws had been a thing in European countries for a decade before GDPR.

GDPR itself gave everyone two years to comply.

GDPR was published in 2016, five years ago.

There's no effing "suddenly". If this is "suddenly" for your business, and your business still hasn't figured out how to not collect (and probably sell) user data wholesale, your business deserves to be sued out of existence.

> Just look at how scummy many of the cookie banner implementations are

Yes. And all of those cookie banners are illegal under GDPR.

Re: Grindr €6.5M fined for not collecting users’ valid consent for sharing data

#118

The sooner companies start to realize that personal data is a liability rather than an asset the better. Happy to see this fine, but as far as I'm concerned given the kind of data we're talking about here it should have been higher.

It's a slap on the wrist. 100x this fine would have been appropriate. Anything less just encourages other companies to treat privacy and data security as a joke.

Look at repeat offenses and how fast they go up. Level 1: don't do this, or we'll fine you. Level 2: here is your first fine, don't do this again or we'll fine you for real. Level 3: Ok, you clearly need something that will move the needle, here is fine you can't ignore. Level 4: you ignored it again, here is a fine that will put you out of business. So far we've only seen level 2 and one or two level 3 fines. Nobody has thought it wise to test the next levels up, it's a bit like the GPL in that respect.

Re: Grindr €6.5M fined for not collecting users’ valid consent for sharing data

#119

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Think of it as the law catching up with technology. > No business is interested in having to suddenly comply with such regulations and essentially no longer being able to utilize the data of individuals however they please. Indeed, hence the need for regulation. > Ergo, corporate interests will probably lead to lots of lobbying in this regard, just look at what happened with net neutrality and the advertising around…

> since EU citizens will be enjoying those protections and US citizens will not eventually this will translate into an advantage for companies doing business from the EU and into the US. For that reason alone there will be a big incentive for the US to make a law that is symmetrical to remove this advantage. Given the lack of similar regulation in the US despite the situation being so bad that unsolicited spam subsid…

> Given the lack of similar regulation in the US

CCPA

Re: Grindr €6.5M fined for not collecting users’ valid consent for sharing data

#120

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The EU is merely leading the way here, you can expect all of the developed world to have similar data protection laws on the books sooner or later. And if you think that treating data in the proper way is hard then you probably shouldn't be in business at all. Operating in the EU is not a liability if you treat your users data in a respectful and responsible way. Common sense alone would answer your questions on what…

How are websites and apps going to make money though? Like it or not, the reason the internet became this popular is because of all the free stuff on it. If everything was behind subscription fees it possibly would never have taken off. I don't think I would've ever used Google if they had charged a fee for the service. This would effectively make political interests entrenched even more on the internet, because they…

Advertising worked fine before tracking. Selling your users data, especially this kind of data is a thing that more than negates the value your users derived from your service, in some places it might get you killed.

There are many ways for websites and apps to make money, and if you can't then maybe you simply shouldn't.

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