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Face recognition is being banned, but it’s still everywhere

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Re: Face recognition is being banned, but it’s still everywhere

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Post by actually_a_dog »

andy_ppp wrote: post #8

It was suggested in the early 2000s that a face could be tracked moving across London by the security services. What do we think, was it possible then? I have to assume by now they have intent monitoring everywhere and can probably tell when someone is doing things like planning a bombing etc.

Well, the Independent claimed in 2004 that the average Briton is caught on camera 300 times a day. [0] Since London probably has more than the average number of cameras per area, even if we wind the clock back 3-4 years, I suspect the answer is yes.

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[0]: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/this-britain/how-avera...

Re: Face recognition is being banned, but it’s still everywhere

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Post by bigodbiel »

Pre-crime facial recognition surveillance is authoritanism. Post-crime facial recognition of surveillance is investigative process. The cat is out of the bag, the only thing that prevents it's inevitable abuse is strict legal framework for its implementation

Re: Face recognition is being banned, but it’s still everywhere

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Post by bayindirh »

flimflamm wrote: post #3

Should police collect iPhones away in those cities where face recognition is banned?

You should also collect Sony Alpha cameras too. Many of them have a preferential focus feature which uses face recognition.

You add up to five faces, prioritized, and it focuses to them if it recognizes in the crowd of people.

Re: Face recognition is being banned, but it’s still everywhere

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Post by lajamerr »

flimflamm wrote: post #12
onethought wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s a government ban. Not a generalised ban.

Sorry, I am out side of US. What's the difference?

Government ban means banned for use by government officials/entities. So it doesn't really apply to the general public or corporations(Unless the corporation specifically has a contract with the same requirements to do work on behalf of the government)

Re: Face recognition is being banned, but it’s still everywhere

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Post by antihero »

actually_a_dog wrote: post #11
andy_ppp wrote: post #8

It was suggested in the early 2000s that a face could be tracked moving across London by the security services. What do we think, was it possible then? I have to assume by now they have intent monitoring everywhere and can probably tell when someone is doing things like planning a bombing etc.

Well, the Independent claimed in 2004 that the average Briton is caught on camera 300 times a day. [0] Since London probably has more than the average number of cameras per area, even if we wind the clock back 3-4 years, I suspect the answer is yes. --- [0]: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/this-britain/how-avera...

Which is an amazing number yet the MET seem incapable of solving most crimes.

Re: Face recognition is being banned, but it’s still everywhere

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Post by namibj »

bayindirh wrote: post #15
flimflamm wrote: post #3

Should police collect iPhones away in those cities where face recognition is banned?

You should also collect Sony Alpha cameras too. Many of them have a preferential focus feature which uses face recognition. You add up to five faces, prioritized, and it focuses to them if it recognizes in the crowd of people.

TIL, and this sounds actually rather useful. Do you have information on which ones would support that? Especially in the range a curious hacker (who else is HN for?) would be interested in.
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