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Re: Raspberry Pi holds its own against low-cost ARM NAS

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Post by thrashh » Thu, Dec 23, 2021, 3:26 AM UTC

abe-101 wrote: post #64

jmnicolas wrote: post #53

Frankly I'm fed up with pi's: they're not reliable at all for 24/7 uses cases. I have a PI 3 at work that needs frequent hard reboots because it fails to read the USB peripheral it's connected to. I also have half dozen PI 4 connected to big screens, that randomly fail to show anything (black screen). They need several hard reboot to get back to work. My boss wasn't convinced that it was the pis fault. To prove it, I…

I've been running a pi at home for more than a half a year now. It's running multiple web services, like my personal blog https://habet.dev/blog nextcloud, wireguard, pihole and more. Lately I started writing blog posts detailing the set up: https://habet.dev/self-hosting-and-securing-web-services-out... I haven't had any issues with it!

Just running low-write software on a Pi isn’t that bad from my experience.

But OP is talking about adding peripherals.

Don’t get me started on trying to switch to SSDs because you kept killing your SD cards.

Re: Raspberry Pi holds its own against low-cost ARM NAS

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Dec 23, 2021, 4:05 AM UTC

rcpt wrote: post #45

FpUser wrote: post #33

Pi 4 is unobtanium now. One of my projects is screwed at the moment because of that

What do you need the pi for? The size? Intel NUC is substantially more powerful and after power bank, SD, case etc you end up paying about the same

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Re: Raspberry Pi holds its own against low-cost ARM NAS

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Post by abrookewood » Thu, Dec 23, 2021, 6:04 AM UTC

hackshack wrote: post #58

mikece wrote: post #2

After watching Geerling's video on YouTube about building an ARM NAS I almost went that direction -- but opted for a Synology DS918+ instead because my need for a NAS is not just experimental but something that needs to work reliably.

I agonized about this for years. I wanted a proper server, not something embedded or a Pi with a rat's nest of cables, that would still fit in a credenza in the living room. Ended up getting an HP MicroServer Gen8 and absolutely love it. Same cube design as the DS918+, but with proper iLO (remote media, etc.), lots of boot options, and very stoutly built. It feels like a real HP DL300-series server (the Gen9 does not…

Yep, I did the same, though currently running on a much older version. Ubuntu, ZFS and a bunch of mirrored drives. The thing has been rock solid for years.

Re: Raspberry Pi holds its own against low-cost ARM NAS

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Post by Helmut10001 » Thu, Dec 23, 2021, 6:29 AM UTC

t-3 wrote: post #66

Helmut10001 wrote: post #39

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Likely the USB-Cable from XU4 to HD controller - exchange it. Hardkernel confirmed that their cables were poor quality and resulted in many disconnects. Mine were gone after exchanging cables. I have to say my Odroid only runs once a week - started remotely through IPSEC for offsite backups. So it is not a 24/7 setup.

It's not the cable - the main IC in the board that the drives plug into "imploded" - there are cracks in package and it's sunken in. I was running it for ~4 years essentially 100% uptime, but took it down in early 2019 and didn't get it set back up until now.

Yes, that makes sense. With the cable I was referring to the random drive disconnects, as I had those, too. About the imploded IC: Not much to do about it - either get a replacement board (well, they are not sold anymore). Or try to recover the Raid 1 disks (if this is what you are using) using an external usb-mount. I heard that the raid is formatted with standard mdadm, so perhaps possible to recover without the original IC. Would be interesting to follow up - please report if you recover your drives somehow.

Re: Raspberry Pi holds its own against low-cost ARM NAS

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Post by lukeh » Thu, Dec 23, 2021, 8:16 AM UTC

hackshack wrote: post #58

mikece wrote: post #2

After watching Geerling's video on YouTube about building an ARM NAS I almost went that direction -- but opted for a Synology DS918+ instead because my need for a NAS is not just experimental but something that needs to work reliably.

I agonized about this for years. I wanted a proper server, not something embedded or a Pi with a rat's nest of cables, that would still fit in a credenza in the living room. Ended up getting an HP MicroServer Gen8 and absolutely love it. Same cube design as the DS918+, but with proper iLO (remote media, etc.), lots of boot options, and very stoutly built. It feels like a real HP DL300-series server (the Gen9 does not…

Yeah, doing the same, albeit with Solaris (probably a dumb choice but at the time, wanted stable ZFS).

Re: Raspberry Pi holds its own against low-cost ARM NAS

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Post by jmnicolas » Thu, Dec 23, 2021, 9:40 AM UTC

magicalhippo wrote: post #67

jmnicolas wrote: post #61

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They all run with the official power supply.

Are you using official cables too? Cause all my Pi instabilities have come from power supply issues, and in all cases the problem was actually due to crappy cables. I bought a cheap USB cable tester[1] from AliExpress and ended up throwing away half my cables. [1]: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32973869742.html (random store, feel free to find another)

The cable is soldered to the power supply.

Looks like that : https://www.okdo.com/us/wp-content/uploads/sites/8/2019/06/E...

Re: Raspberry Pi holds its own against low-cost ARM NAS

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Post by wila » Thu, Dec 23, 2021, 5:16 PM UTC

lunfard000 wrote: post #44

wila wrote: post #29

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It's the rest of the kit that makes it expensive. If you don't need all the parts, then you can shave some off. https://www.kiwi-electronics.nl/nl/merk-raspberry-pi

I mean, at the very least you always need a charger and a sd card, the barebone price is kinda misleading

Not everyone has to buy that separately. For example, I have plenty of sd cards laying around. For the charger you are probably right due to the rpi not working with every usbc adapter, but that's 10 euros.

You selected the 4GB one, but if you select the 2GB or 1GB version things get cheaper too. I think they are great value for a very reasonable price.

Re: Raspberry Pi holds its own against low-cost ARM NAS

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Post by magicalhippo » Sat, Dec 25, 2021, 11:00 AM UTC

jmnicolas wrote: post #76

magicalhippo wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you using official cables too? Cause all my Pi instabilities have come from power supply issues, and in all cases the problem was actually due to crappy cables. I bought a cheap USB cable tester[1] from AliExpress and ended up throwing away half my cables. [1]: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32973869742.html (random store, feel free to find another)

The cable is soldered to the power supply. Looks like that : https://www.okdo.com/us/wp-content/uploads/sites/8/2019/06/E...

Well one would assume it's proper then. You could still do a load test with the USB tester I linked to, see if voltage drops too much under 2A load, but I'd assume that's not the issue.