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Face recognition is being banned, but it’s still everywhere

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Should police collect iPhones away in those cities where face recognition is banned?

That depends what the law says. Some of the pressure here is to stop the police themselves from using the tech, I wouldn’t know if any given law prevents personal use.

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London is the surveillance capital of the world:

London is often called the CCTV capital of the world, and for good reason. The city is home to hundreds of thousands of CCTV cameras, and the average Londoner is caught on CCTV 300 times a day.

https://www.cctv.co.uk/how-many-cctv-cameras-are-there-in-lo...

Facial recognition software is being integrated now into this network. No one seems to mind at all. It seems that the same is in most of the rest of the world.

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The network effects of large databases lead to an imbalance of power between surveillance and sousveillance: a personal face recognition DB will never match a government one.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sousveillance

As such, we can not, say, catch not-so-publically-known but well-connected public officials where they should not be.

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It was suggested in the early 2000s that a face could be tracked moving across London by the security services. What do we think, was it possible then? I have to assume by now they have intent monitoring everywhere and can probably tell when someone is doing things like planning a bombing etc.

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London is the surveillance capital of the world: London is often called the CCTV capital of the world, and for good reason. The city is home to hundreds of thousands of CCTV cameras, and the average Londoner is caught on CCTV 300 times a day. https://www.cctv.co.uk/how-many-cctv-cameras-are-there-in-lo... Facial recognition software is being integrated now into this network. No one seems to mind at all. It seems that…

Not everywhere though, in Spain it's illegal to film the street. "In Spain, the law protects the rights of citizens to use public spaces, which is free from interference (Clavell et al., 2012)" If you want to live a functioning non-Orwellian society, move here.

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London is the surveillance capital of the world: London is often called the CCTV capital of the world, and for good reason. The city is home to hundreds of thousands of CCTV cameras, and the average Londoner is caught on CCTV 300 times a day. https://www.cctv.co.uk/how-many-cctv-cameras-are-there-in-lo... Facial recognition software is being integrated now into this network. No one seems to mind at all. It seems that…

Not everywhere though, in Spain it's illegal to film the street. "In Spain, the law protects the rights of citizens to use public spaces, which is free from interference (Clavell et al., 2012)" If you want to live a functioning non-Orwellian society, move here.

Spain seems really competent right now compared to the UK, they even have a digital nomad visa for people outside the EU.

With remote working being mainstream going forward I'm certainly going to consider somewhere with more sunshine and less harsh winters...

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