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Re: GoDaddy's New "Selective DNS Blackouts" Policy

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Post by josephb » Tue, Sep 06, 2011, 2:43 PM UTC

seabee wrote: post #68

georgieporgie wrote: post #40

I tallied up all the votes in a HN thread about registrars and settled on NearlyFreeSpeech.net. Their payment system is weird (you fund your pool of money from which charges are deducted), but otherwise it was quick, painless, and not full of creepy, sexualized imagery and cheesy, repetitive upselling techniques. GoDaddy is a bit cheaper if you spend the time to scrounge up coupon codes, but wow, NearlyFreeSpeech was…

NFS was a GoDaddy reseller, last time I checked.

According to the NFS FAQ they use Public Domain Registry.

http://faq.nearlyfreespeech.net/section/domainregistration/a...

Re: GoDaddy's New "Selective DNS Blackouts" Policy

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Post by EwanToo » Tue, Sep 06, 2011, 2:45 PM UTC

veyron wrote: post #7

Is there a market nowadays for a new low-cost registrar / hosting provider?

For registrars, the margins are basically non-existant, low cost + high volume is where they're all already at.

For .com domains, Verisign charge all registrars $7.34 per registration (going up to $7.85 in January 2012), so when you consider GoDaddy charge $11.99 (less with various offers), it's not a big margin business.

Re: GoDaddy's New "Selective DNS Blackouts" Policy

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Post by [deleted] » Tue, Sep 06, 2011, 2:45 PM UTC

georgieporgie wrote: post #40

I tallied up all the votes in a HN thread about registrars and settled on NearlyFreeSpeech.net. Their payment system is weird (you fund your pool of money from which charges are deducted), but otherwise it was quick, painless, and not full of creepy, sexualized imagery and cheesy, repetitive upselling techniques. GoDaddy is a bit cheaper if you spend the time to scrounge up coupon codes, but wow, NearlyFreeSpeech was…

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Re: GoDaddy's New "Selective DNS Blackouts" Policy

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Post by drzaiusapelord » Tue, Sep 06, 2011, 2:47 PM UTC

amirrustam wrote: post #9

What do you guys use instead of GoDaddy? Just interested to see what others prefer out there. I was gonna do a domain transfer to GoDaddy, but after reading this I won't be considering them.

namecheap.com. Clean interface compared to to godaddy's horrible nightmare of upsell ads and 1990s level UI/UX.

Re: GoDaddy's New "Selective DNS Blackouts" Policy

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Post by Karunamon » Tue, Sep 06, 2011, 3:21 PM UTC

sschueller wrote: post #56

amirrustam wrote: post #9

What do you guys use instead of GoDaddy? Just interested to see what others prefer out there. I was gonna do a domain transfer to GoDaddy, but after reading this I won't be considering them.

enom.com

Not just no, HELL no. Enom is almost worse than godaddy in some ways, especially when it comes to transfers. They will hold you down for the maximum amount of time they can before actually processing a transfer. I've had to deal with their support more than once because of a XFR being stuck in their process somewhere.

They're also a huge reseller. I'd rather deal with a tier 1 provider instead of one 2 or 3 links down the chain.

Re: GoDaddy's New "Selective DNS Blackouts" Policy

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Post by politician » Tue, Sep 06, 2011, 3:37 PM UTC

speleding wrote: post #57

politician wrote: post #3

tldr: The new owners of GoDaddy have decided to block DNS traffic rather then invest in their infrastructure to handle the additional load. See also: bridges, roads, wireless carriers.

"GoDaddy have decided to block DNS traffic rather then invest in their infrastructure to handle the additional load" The article doesn't say that at all, it specifically mentions that this is not the reason for the block. Did you read it before commenting?

Yeah, I did, but I accidentally included information from the "GoDaddy response" linked by rednaught. If you didn't read the 2nd link, then I understand how it sounds wrong. In retrospect, I should have replied to rednaught's post.

Re: GoDaddy's New "Selective DNS Blackouts" Policy

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Post by johngalt » Tue, Sep 06, 2011, 4:47 PM UTC

You don't buy DNS service from Godaddy, you buy registration. The DNS service is a courtesy.

For all this article states here's much more likely what's happening:

1. People are using the "free DNS service" for high traffic sites rather than rolling their own or buying a paid DNS service. Then setting their TTLs to 1 hour to make changes easier.

2. Godaddy is paying real $$ to host DNS for all those domains and in some cases could be revenue negative on a domain because of it. Regardless of how cheap you think DNS hosting is, Godaddy makes $3-4/year or less on a domain registration.

3. Godaddy is responding by throttling sources of extreme (possibly automated) DNS query traffic.

The author is someone going to the cheapest registrar and complaining that the complimentary serivces have limits. Once those limits are found he is trying to paint a "cheap/greedy corporation" picture. If the author is looking to write about underinvestment in infrastructure, he should consider an autobiography.

Re: GoDaddy's New "Selective DNS Blackouts" Policy

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Post by jonursenbach » Tue, Sep 06, 2011, 5:05 PM UTC

Since when is GoDaddy a monopoly?

Re: GoDaddy's New "Selective DNS Blackouts" Policy

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Post by blakeperdue » Tue, Sep 06, 2011, 6:00 PM UTC

lazyjeff wrote: post #14

imrehg wrote: post #8

I'm still confused why would anyone want to by their domain name from GoDaddy, after all this press they get. It looks like a horrible company in general (not just this story) and everyone giving them money just helps them suck more. If I could see they are improving, then a current suckiness can be forgiven, but when actually getting worse?

It shouldn't be confusing. It's the price. Domains are a commodity, and $7.69 for a domain (after applying one of the widely-available coupons) is the lowest price in the industry. If someone registers many domains, this adds up quickly.

I think it's more name recognition. Nearly all of my freelance clients who bought their own domain name for a new venture used Godaddy. Why? Because it's the only domain registrar they've ever heard of.

They don't know about Godaddy's bad press or it's upselling techniques. They just know they saw a superbowl ad saying "need a domain name? use godaddy"

Re: GoDaddy's New "Selective DNS Blackouts" Policy

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Post by ars » Tue, Sep 06, 2011, 6:01 PM UTC

ez77 wrote: post #63

ars wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Um, what does this have to do with the article?

It is a technical point, in a technical forum. It is fairly common for HNers to comment, say, on the CSS technology used in an article about the US deficit, and they are generally not downvoted or scolded. Similarly, my comment is that the author essentially appeals to no CSS at all.

You really don't get this? People comment on the css when it interesting and you can learn from it. Saying someone didn't use css is not interesting at all.

It's not a design page, it's not an html tutorial, it's an article on DNS, the html and css make difference at all.

Try to answer (in your mind) the question: "So what?" to both your posts. Merely raising a point isn't really enough - there has to be a reason to raise it.