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Buying Influence: How China manipulates Facebook and Twitter

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Post by tiahura »

pphysch wrote: post #162
tiahura wrote: post #129

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Why wouldn’t you have high expectations of the US and low expectations of China? The rise of King Xi should demonstrate that culturally China is still hundreds of years behind the West.

What compelled you to make such a wildly uninformed and bigoted comment?

People get the government they deserve. If Chinese society, in the 21 century, is still elevating monarchs to engage in genocide and totalitarianism, I’m not persuaded that it’s bigotry to conclude the society is not something to be admired. YMMV.

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Post by adamisom »

dominotw wrote: post #145
nitrogen wrote: post #94

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The existence of worse problems does not make other problems go away. It's reasonable and desirable to strive for a better future no matter how good the present is.

Wouldn't that imply people are forever oppressed because things can be better.

Welcome to the news cycle! The world improves, but one thing remains constant (stubbornly disconnected from whether or not, and how much, things are improving): amount of outrage

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Post by nebula8804 »

baby wrote: post #163
boznz wrote: post #60

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Same in Europe and Australasia but without the guns.

The Americans really love their guns don't they

~60% of Americans don't own a gun. Just 3% of American adults own a collective 133m firearms out of a supposed 265m.

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Post by fishtacos »

88840-8855 wrote: post #151
fishtacos wrote: post #133

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You forgot the /s tag, methinks: "If i could vote for the CCP here in germany, i would." You could not vote for a system like that - if you did, you'd stop having a right to vote for a different system RIGHT after. 'nuff said. It's unfathomable someone in 2021, that is not a Xi-paid troll (precisely what this article is about) would advocate for more authoritarian control, rather than less. The people you spoke to (i…

"EVERYONE IS BRAINWASHED EXCEPT OF US BLESSED AMERICANS" F15 flyover bombing of some random civilians cool individualism that was build on exploitation of the planet and the 90% of the world KEK, sustainable, mate. China workd. I lived there for years and people were happier than here in Germany. I am just sooooooo sick and tired of those anti-China sentiment here in HN. EVERY SINGLE TIME a china article is posted, y…

This is not anti-chinese sentiment. This is an objective take on geo-political matters regarding an outwardly belligerent anti-western world power functioning under authoritarian rule (which is freely admitted by them, btw). T

This same power is also allied with another major anti-western power, the russian federation, forming an alliance meant to disrupt and expand. An empirial mindset that is threatening global stability.

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Post by jarboot »

adamsb6 wrote: post #8

Why would Shanghai police care to manufacture opinion abroad? I consume a decent amount of news and rarely see Shanghai mentioned in American newspapers. Or is this supposed to be one part of a larger effort, tasked to work on stories that are actually of global concern, having nothing to do with Shanghai?

Shanghai is a city with a unique role in the progression of the CCP and its global efforts. Also PLA Unit 61398 is in Pudong, the shanghai district mentioned in the article. Overall there's a lot of CCP/PLA-adjacent tech talent in the area, and of course the local police still ultimately report to the CCP.

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Post by blitzar »

raimundjoss wrote: post #33

So much of social media pre-supposes that no entity would spend the kinda money to influence an issue. They didn't take a state with limited resources into account.

It turns out you can spice things up on social media with relatively modest ad spends, the mob are so desperate to be incited that you dont even need to light the match.

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Post by dragonelite »

endisneigh wrote: post #17

Which countries don’t do this? What China is doing is bad, but is this some sort of new development? Russia, Germany, France to name a few have been caught doing the same thing. Not to mention the USA. Facebook and Twitter need to handle this issue. This type of stuff is going on meanwhile they’re banning people for the stupidest most innocuous actions.

It just weird seeing how China's propaganda is so good that western nation went from positive and neutral toward China too wanting to sit on a throne of Chinese skulls.

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Post by dang »

johnsolo1701 wrote: post #57

When something negative about China is posted: "Everyone does it!" When something negative about the US is posted: "Downfall of an empire!"

Please don't take HN threads into generic flamewar, and certainly not generic nationalistic flamewar. It's tedious, predictable, nasty, and not what we want here.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

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Post by throw10920 »

nebula8804 wrote: post #198
bgroat wrote: post #73

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I'm a Canadian, but I often watch American rallies on the news. I always laugh when some American protestors say they're being oppressed/the current regime is fascistic. I mean, you're gathered, in a crowd, often armed, with your message being broadcast, with a reasonable expectation (I know, I know, not always - especially for certain demographics) of going home/surviving. I'm not sure they really understand what fa…

The problem is that little by little these freedoms are being chipped away so it requires constant fighting and pushing back in an extreme fashion to hopefully slow it down. For example: You want to protest Israel? Great but now in 35 states you cannot accept any government jobs. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-BDS_laws#Anti-BDS_laws_in... Another example: NSA is slurping up every last detail of Americans com…

> NSA is slurping up every last detail of Americans complete being. That we know thanks to snowden.

If you've actually read the Snowden papers, you'd know that they don't say anything remotely resembling this.

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