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Buying Influence: How China manipulates Facebook and Twitter

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fishtacos wrote: post #133
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You forgot the /s tag, methinks: "If i could vote for the CCP here in germany, i would." You could not vote for a system like that - if you did, you'd stop having a right to vote for a different system RIGHT after. 'nuff said. It's unfathomable someone in 2021, that is not a Xi-paid troll (precisely what this article is about) would advocate for more authoritarian control, rather than less. The people you spoke to (i…

"EVERYONE IS BRAINWASHED EXCEPT OF US BLESSED AMERICANS" F15 flyover bombing of some random civilians cool individualism that was build on exploitation of the planet and the 90% of the world KEK, sustainable, mate.

China workd. I lived there for years and people were happier than here in Germany.

I am just sooooooo sick and tired of those anti-China sentiment here in HN. EVERY SINGLE TIME a china article is posted, you just read shit. If it was balanced, i would not care, but it is so predictable. I just want to rant and vomit.

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> i wonder how people here inte west think of china. do you really think that GESTAPO will come and beat the shit out of you just because you were talking shit? I have no idea what it is like generally, but this video[1] (which I admittedly cannot confirm the authenticity of) depicts a man who has been arrested for comments he made on social media. He is chained to the table and his arms are restricted as he tries to…

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Post by baby »

gentleman11 wrote: post #21

Imagine living somewhere like China and not liking it. It would be hellish, you couldn’t even talk about it without a police visit or your boss passing trouble along to you. A giant human spirit grinder

I'm sometimes thinking about the bigger picture, and wondering what will happen in hundreds of years? Will Western country end up more and more divided, and will China become more and more united and like-minded? One variable that seems to indicate to the contrary is that transparency is a huge factor in allowing a society to improve itself, and China is becoming more and more opaque.

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Post by commandlinefan »

echelon wrote: post #51
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Imagine living somewhere like China and not liking it. It would be hellish, you couldn’t even talk about it without a police visit or your boss passing trouble along to you. A giant human spirit grinder

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> Americans can say anything

Well, less so these days than 20 or even 10 years ago - the suppression just doesn't come from the government now. There are a lot of things you really can't say in America and there are a lot more of them than there used to be.

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Post by throw10920 »

Aunche wrote: post #103

Before you use this as an excuse to accuse the commenter you disagree with as being a Wumao, note that China's propaganda strategy serves to distract rather than directly engage, as they would rather minimize engagement. It's the same principle of "don't feed the trolls." Here's a Harvard paper that covers this topic more in depth, though it's about domestic propaganda: https://gking.harvard.edu/files/gking/files/50c…

> Before you use this as an excuse to accuse the commenter you disagree with as being a Wumao

Well, most people generally shouldn't be doing that in the first place (it's against the HN guidelines in particular and bad form in general, with the exception of blatant repeated bad-faith low-effort posts).

Even so, using "is this propaganda a distraction or direct engagement" as a heuristic for "is this post propaganda" is also not a great thing to do. Any large organization engaging in propaganda will have multiple large sub-orgs, stakeholders, and inconsistencies due to misaligned incentives, miscommunications, and the squishiness that comes along with propaganda.

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Post by baby »

echelon wrote: post #51
gentleman11 wrote: post #21

Imagine living somewhere like China and not liking it. It would be hellish, you couldn’t even talk about it without a police visit or your boss passing trouble along to you. A giant human spirit grinder

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> and defend their home with a gun

that policy has had quite the downsides on people's lives

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88840-8855 wrote: post #97
gentleman11 wrote: post #21

Imagine living somewhere like China and not liking it. It would be hellish, you couldn’t even talk about it without a police visit or your boss passing trouble along to you. A giant human spirit grinder

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https://vimeo.com/44078865

Why is everyone afraid to talk in this video?

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gentleman11 wrote: post #21

Imagine living somewhere like China and not liking it. It would be hellish, you couldn’t even talk about it without a police visit or your boss passing trouble along to you. A giant human spirit grinder

Imagine living somewhere like China where it's gotten to the bad state it is in now - when 5-6 years ago there was a real trajectory away from where it is now, and the world (including myself) was cheering on China.

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I'm a Canadian, but I often watch American rallies on the news. I always laugh when some American protestors say they're being oppressed/the current regime is fascistic. I mean, you're gathered, in a crowd, often armed, with your message being broadcast, with a reasonable expectation (I know, I know, not always - especially for certain demographics) of going home/surviving. I'm not sure they really understand what fa…

You know that relative freedom exists when people are free to protest and discuss openly incredibly stupid ideas. It's a feature, not bug.
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