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Buying Influence: How China manipulates Facebook and Twitter

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Re: Buying Influence: How China manipulates Facebook and Twitter

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The issue of this behavior is that CCP built an apparatus that information flow is managed across the whole country. As a result, one can no longer trace this document on any official channel. Since there is no public trace of this document, one is impossible to pinpoint the chain of evidence.

So block chain has been touted as an advanced tech by Xi, you'll notice that it's adoption is never free. The line that crossing would result into hard to predict consequences is itself intractable.

Re: Buying Influence: How China manipulates Facebook and Twitter

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Chomsky spent a good part of his career claiming the Cambodian Genocide was just US propaganda.

This too doesn't make it less true.

Nothing you say makes your comment any more true, either. At the moment, we're at "That's just, like, your opinion, man."

[Edit: Do you have any evidence that the NYT is deliberately seeking to manufacture consent? Or even that they are unwittingly being used to manufacture consent?

Or are they just reporting what's actually happening, namely that China is manipulating western media?

And, even if the NYT is manufacturing consent, that's still pretty much a "whataboutism", unless you're claiming that China is not manipulating Facebook and Twitter.

End of edit.]

Re: Buying Influence: How China manipulates Facebook and Twitter

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post #8

Why would Shanghai police care to manufacture opinion abroad? I consume a decent amount of news and rarely see Shanghai mentioned in American newspapers. Or is this supposed to be one part of a larger effort, tasked to work on stories that are actually of global concern, having nothing to do with Shanghai?

It's the same reason that the NBA came under fire after one of their GM's sent a tweet out in support of Honk Kong [1].

Of course it's important for the CCP to shape opinion abroad, it's seeking to supplant the US as a global power and needs the soft-influence that the US has.

[1] https://www.cnbc.com/2019/10/07/houston-rockets-gm-morey-del...

Re: Buying Influence: How China manipulates Facebook and Twitter

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Chomsky spent a good part of his career claiming the Cambodian Genocide was just US propaganda.

This too doesn't make it less true.

If a preconceived belief will make you blind to genocide, what else will it make you blind to?

Re: Buying Influence: How China manipulates Facebook and Twitter

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Which countries don’t do this? What China is doing is bad, but is this some sort of new development? Russia, Germany, France to name a few have been caught doing the same thing. Not to mention the USA.

Facebook and Twitter need to handle this issue. This type of stuff is going on meanwhile they’re banning people for the stupidest most innocuous actions.

Re: Buying Influence: How China manipulates Facebook and Twitter

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This too doesn't make it less true.

Nothing you say makes your comment any more true, either. At the moment, we're at "That's just, like, your opinion, man." [Edit: Do you have any evidence that the NYT is deliberately seeking to manufacture consent? Or even that they are unwittingly being used to manufacture consent? Or are they just reporting what's actually happening, namely that China is manipulating western media? And, even if the NYT is manufactu…

Dude. This is not Vietnam.

Let us compare the NYT manufacturing track record considering ... Iraq.

This will not stand.

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