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Re: Show HN: SlikSafe – A decentralized, end-to-end encrypted alternative to Dropbox

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Post by arpitagarwal » Wed, Dec 22, 2021, 2:21 AM UTC

Eric_WVGG wrote: post #176

arpitagarwal wrote: post #149

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I am not sure which parts are actually provided by Sliksafe. The full end-to-end encrypted backup and sharing experience is provided by Slik. We use Storj only for storing the encrypted blobs, or simply as a replacement of S3. > The website tells me I can pay by solana (or even by credit card!), but there seems to be no indication of how much I actually would have to pay. Our detailed pricing page is currently avai…

How did you arrive at SOL instead of BTC or ETH?

That was simple, it is fast and scales as you need it. No logical consumer would like to pay gas prices of $120 on a transaction of $20.

Re: Show HN: SlikSafe – A decentralized, end-to-end encrypted alternative to Dropbox

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Post by arpitagarwal » Wed, Dec 22, 2021, 2:28 AM UTC

phs318u wrote: post #177

This is probably off-topic, but here's what I would love to see: a federated, highly redundant distribution platform where usage requires a contribution of storage. Volume, performance and uptime of that contribution would be rewarded with proportional rights (with respect to available storage, and priority of service). Can such a distributed solution be developed without requiring a blockchain or the mining of coins…

Yes, it can somewhat be done. The net storage costs could theoretically be tending to zero, but might never be zero because of fill-rate per node and maintaining system reliability.

Re: Show HN: SlikSafe – A decentralized, end-to-end encrypted alternative to Dropbox

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Post by garyrob » Wed, Dec 22, 2021, 2:30 AM UTC

arpitagarwal wrote: post #143

trompetenaccoun wrote: post #60

The website and demo look cool, I like your clean and simple design. The supposed whitepaper however doesn't go into any details at all. It says in addition to Storj the files are also stored directly on "the blockchain". What blockchain? It's not even named. There are no technical details on the encryption process or anything else either. I'd love to like this because imo decentralized private storage is an importan…

That's some great feedback, trompetenaccoun. Slik's file storage is powered by Storj and Filecoin. About encryption, would love to hear what part you find missing in the 3 protocols for backups, sharing, and multi-device support, mentioned in our WhitePaper. We're constantly improving our WhitePaper to provide as much clarity as possible about our systems and algorithms. We had set lifetime storage for 10 years, and…

"lifetime" meaning "10 years" makes no sense at all. It makes your company seem incompetent or badly intentioned. Just say "10 years" if that's the time period.

Re: Show HN: SlikSafe – A decentralized, end-to-end encrypted alternative to Dropbox

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Post by Quindecillion » Wed, Dec 22, 2021, 4:09 AM UTC

gentleman11 wrote: post #180

soheil wrote: post #179

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We'll have much bigger fish to fry than worrying about decentralized storage.

Sure, that’s true. However, I would personally like to know whether “all my files being out in the open forever” is a thing I need to worry about in addition to all the default problems

If encryption gets cracked by quantum computing, everything digital that's connected to the Internet, is "out in the open" until quantum-proof encryption becomes the norm.

The only way to be sure would be to physically self-host with the option to air gap the storage from the Internet.

Re: Show HN: SlikSafe – A decentralized, end-to-end encrypted alternative to Dropbox

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Post by Quindecillion » Wed, Dec 22, 2021, 4:14 AM UTC

volkk wrote: post #109

glutamate wrote: post #99

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Interesting that when given a choice, people choose centralised over decentralised.

i think this is mostly because of the maturity/popularity of the tooling, not the underlying aspect of centralization. if there was a just as slick, widespread and useful decentralized alternative, i would be on that instead.

Depends on what problem the adoption of decentralisation is solving. There's no point choosing a decentralised option just for the sake of it.

Re: Show HN: SlikSafe – A decentralized, end-to-end encrypted alternative to Dropbox

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Post by dustymcp » Wed, Dec 22, 2021, 12:40 PM UTC

What happens to cp and banned content ?

Re: Show HN: SlikSafe – A decentralized, end-to-end encrypted alternative to Dropbox

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Post by charvimittal » Wed, Dec 22, 2021, 5:22 PM UTC

norswap wrote: post #175

A big question I have is do you pay per GB of storage, or per GB of uploaded data? That makes a big difference when you're frequently updating your files.

It's pay per GB of storage :)

Re: Show HN: SlikSafe – A decentralized, end-to-end encrypted alternative to Dropbox

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Post by charvimittal » Wed, Dec 22, 2021, 5:24 PM UTC

adiM wrote: post #171

Any plans for a Linux version? That’s a bit selling point of Dropbox for me as it is one of the few syncing services that have a Linux client.

We are aiming for a Linux launch by end of H1'22

Re: Show HN: SlikSafe – A decentralized, end-to-end encrypted alternative to Dropbox

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Post by arpitagarwal » Wed, Dec 22, 2021, 6:05 PM UTC

gentleman11 wrote: post #178

trompetenaccoun wrote: post #60

The website and demo look cool, I like your clean and simple design. The supposed whitepaper however doesn't go into any details at all. It says in addition to Storj the files are also stored directly on "the blockchain". What blockchain? It's not even named. There are no technical details on the encryption process or anything else either. I'd love to like this because imo decentralized private storage is an importan…

If a quantum computer gets good enough to crack common encryption algorithms, what are the consequences for decentralized storage? Could some hostile nation state just collect and store the data until such time they can decrypt it?

That's a great point. However, in Slik's case, the data is first fragmented into small chunks and then distributed into a decentralized storage. Thus, for a bad actor to pose a problem, they'll also have to collect all the encrypted chunks, before making any sense out of it.

Re: Show HN: SlikSafe – A decentralized, end-to-end encrypted alternative to Dropbox

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Post by arpitagarwal » Wed, Dec 22, 2021, 7:38 PM UTC

garyrob wrote: post #183

arpitagarwal wrote: post #143

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's some great feedback, trompetenaccoun. Slik's file storage is powered by Storj and Filecoin. About encryption, would love to hear what part you find missing in the 3 protocols for backups, sharing, and multi-device support, mentioned in our WhitePaper. We're constantly improving our WhitePaper to provide as much clarity as possible about our systems and algorithms. We had set lifetime storage for 10 years, and…

"lifetime" meaning "10 years" makes no sense at all. It makes your company seem incompetent or badly intentioned. Just say "10 years" if that's the time period.

Thanks for the great feedback Gary! We'll work on it. :)