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> that is an edge case which Google would need to figure out How do you figure out legality of having a document from the document? Unless it's child porn, where it's implicit, this simply isn't computable.
Maintaining a hash of say music files that are owned by large record label companies or a conglomerate like VeVo, match every audio file uploaded with the hash and if it matches, flag it, get it reviewed and if it matches, delete it?
Google Drive may restrict files identified as violating ToS
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Apple's CSAM would scan your offline photos. Google scanning photos you upload to their cloud seems fine to me. Not a slippery slope.
Very much a slippery slope. Their cloud doesn't mean its their content. If said content is public, I mostly agree, but not if its private. When I hire a storage box and put stuff in it, I don't own the storage box. Yet still it cannot be searched by anyone, not the company nor the authorities, unless there is a credible criminal suspicion.
I think that would be crazy. When they end up being CSAM or whatever, you're the one that will go to prison for possessing them, not the person that sent them to you.
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Apple's CSAM would scan your offline photos. Google scanning photos you upload to their cloud seems fine to me. Not a slippery slope.
Very much a slippery slope. Their cloud doesn't mean its their content. If said content is public, I mostly agree, but not if its private. When I hire a storage box and put stuff in it, I don't own the storage box. Yet still it cannot be searched by anyone, not the company nor the authorities, unless there is a credible criminal suspicion.
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#54This is great, afaik Google Drive stuff is a nightmare for SoCs as they don't want to block the whole domain.
One easy to block is storage.googleapis.com ...Regularly used to host malware, but legitimate users generally throw their own domain in front of any usage of that service.
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#55This is deeply disturbing news. It is already a problem that people get their Google accounts closed without any explanation from Google and with no response from Google when they try to contact them. A story about Elin Killie Martinsen, a Norwegian journalist and writer who lost access to her book manuscripts this way, was recently run in the national newspaper Aftenposten ( https://www.aftenposten.no/kultur/i/8Qj1l…
It's really bothering when the account just also happens to be your core email service so suddenly you have no way of recovering other accounts. Moving off Gmail is likely impossible for most non-technical folks.
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#56We need a distributed volunteer backed free replacement. Is IPFS or gnunet ready for that yet?
Regular users need something that just works instantly and never needs maintenance. If it doesn’t just work it’s broken.
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What if you actually own the copyrighted content or have permission to have it?
Of course, that is an edge case which Google would need to figure out and perhaps, one of the many reasons they haven't done it.
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What if you actually own the copyrighted content or have permission to have it?
Of course, that is an edge case which Google would need to figure out and perhaps, one of the many reasons they haven't done it.
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It's really bothering when the account just also happens to be your core email service so suddenly you have no way of recovering other accounts. Moving off Gmail is likely impossible for most non-technical folks.
There are plenty email providers out there. Free and paid. It should not be a problem for anyone to switch. Moving off of Gmail doesn't mean to self host. It is a bit of work to tell anyone about your new address, but that's it.
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#60Obviously it can be easily defeated with encryption / changing the metadata, but it's so easy to implement I'm shocked they didn't do it earlier.
Google drive is commonly used for a backup of media or even a host of media when using rclone.