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(mac)ostalgia – how Spotify, Slack, Chrome, Figma could look on Mac OS 9

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Re: (mac)ostalgia – how Spotify, Slack, Chrome, Figma could look on Mac OS 9

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Post by wruza »

chrisseaton wrote: post #64
jjoonathan wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hamburgers and hieroglyphs: this does not bring joy. Pretty objects: this activates the neurons.

I don't really know what you're trying to say, but my child seems absolutely able to pick up modern UI design, including the hamburger icon and others, and use it very happily and with joy.

Kids would be able to pickup CLI if that were the only way to start their favorite game. Kids also share knowledge even when your attention is away. We had a drive to learn MK combos and used that to win fights, but as adults, barely anyone in a random-100 group knows how to :q Vim.

Give your kid a phone with zero interesting activities in it compared to other toys, and he/she would “pick” nothing out of it.

Re: (mac)ostalgia – how Spotify, Slack, Chrome, Figma could look on Mac OS 9

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Post by simion314 »

hanief wrote: post #19

Ironically, the website is broken when viewed on Safari. Just white blank page. :(

It would be great is the giant company that makes Safari could find a solution so any webdev could run Safari (and the betas too) on their machine to be able to test in it.

Re: (mac)ostalgia – how Spotify, Slack, Chrome, Figma could look on Mac OS 9

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Post by vbezhenar »

userbinator wrote: post #69
jonpurdy wrote: post #9

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It’s amazing to me how much more usable those UIs are. Not to mention how much more performant they’d be than modern Electron garbage. But forget about Mac OS 9, we don’t even have native OS X or Windows interfaces anymore. Doesn’t help that Apple dropped the ball on following their own UI guidelines.

Native Windows - Win32 - still exists, but all the trendy "modern" stuff seems to be avoiding it, probably because the web stuff is easier to find developers for.

It's not only about web stuff. Microsoft themselves iterated on their standard UI: WPF, then WinRT which is different from win32 UI. It's a mess.

Though it's a mess in Linux as well: Gtk, Qt and some lesser known frameworks.

Not sure about macOS.

Re: (mac)ostalgia – how Spotify, Slack, Chrome, Figma could look on Mac OS 9

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Post by pstadler »

tailspin2019 wrote: post #11
jonpalmisc wrote: post #2

Wow, this is incredible. Can’t imagine how much work this took. Seeing this makes me think about how many modern applications could learn a few things from the old Mac OS 8/9 Human Interface Guidelines. [0] [0] http://mirror.informatimago.com/next/developer.apple.com/doc...

I almost didn’t scroll down and spot the video. What an amazing amount of effort…

Overlooked it too. The mouse wiggling during app loading is subtle.

Re: (mac)ostalgia – how Spotify, Slack, Chrome, Figma could look on Mac OS 9

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Post by sjmulder »

nebula8804 wrote: post #44
jonpurdy wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s amazing to me how much more usable those UIs are. Not to mention how much more performant they’d be than modern Electron garbage. But forget about Mac OS 9, we don’t even have native OS X or Windows interfaces anymore. Doesn’t help that Apple dropped the ball on following their own UI guidelines.

>we don’t even have native OS X or Windows interfaces anymore Wait you can't just call the respective APIs anymore? I thought the reason people don't use them is not because they aren't available but that 2 different codebases would have to be maintained hence things like Electron.

There's isn't a "the respective API" any more for Windows, it seems. Win32/ATL/Forms don't get the new widgets and design language (just a bit of lookalike styling). WPF, UWP, WinUI 2/3 are all bundled toolkits that mimic the Windows' fashion of the day to varying degrees.

Re: (mac)ostalgia – how Spotify, Slack, Chrome, Figma could look on Mac OS 9

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Post by labster »

chrisseaton wrote: post #65
labster wrote: post #59

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No, the old icons are objectively better. I’ve used iPhones since the iPhone 1 and I still keep the original as a music player. I have to hunt down apps on current iOS but astonishingly they all look somewhat different in the old days, which means they are easier to find. It’s easier to find my way around an old iOS I use once a month than one I use every hour.

> No, the old icons are objectively better. Do you mean you're used to the old icons? My seven-year-old wouldn't recognise them.

No, I mean I’m used to the new icons because I use them constantly and yet the old ones provide far superior UX.

Of course your seven year old wouldn’t recognize icons on a ten year old OS. What are you, twelve?

Seriously, go put the iOS icons for Phone, FaceTime, Messages, and Numbers in your bottom dock in a random order, and see how easy it is to use.

Re: (mac)ostalgia – how Spotify, Slack, Chrome, Figma could look on Mac OS 9

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Post by [deleted] »

labster wrote: post #106
chrisseaton wrote: post #65

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> No, the old icons are objectively better. Do you mean you're used to the old icons? My seven-year-old wouldn't recognise them.

No, I mean I’m used to the new icons because I use them constantly and yet the old ones provide far superior UX. Of course your seven year old wouldn’t recognize icons on a ten year old OS. What are you, twelve? Seriously, go put the iOS icons for Phone, FaceTime, Messages, and Numbers in your bottom dock in a random order, and see how easy it is to use.

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Re: (mac)ostalgia – how Spotify, Slack, Chrome, Figma could look on Mac OS 9

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Post by ithkuil »

martinald wrote: post #30
zrail wrote: post #24

I know at least one person who would pay _very good money_ for a version of Slack that opened channels in separate windows.

Yeah, watching that video really reminds me how poor slack performance is. It genuinely feels like it could fit into a couple of MB of RAM back in those days and been super snappy. I literally do not use slack for anything that IRC wouldn't do back in the late 90s, with the exception of threads, embedded images, and emojis. It is crazy how close but how far IRC was. Session persistence, notification support even when…

You may want to give https://volt-app.com/ a try.

Re: (mac)ostalgia – how Spotify, Slack, Chrome, Figma could look on Mac OS 9

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Post by barrenko »

waspight wrote: post #99
jonpurdy wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s amazing to me how much more usable those UIs are. Not to mention how much more performant they’d be than modern Electron garbage. But forget about Mac OS 9, we don’t even have native OS X or Windows interfaces anymore. Doesn’t help that Apple dropped the ball on following their own UI guidelines.

I think Electron is quite amazing. It does not deserve this bad reputation that it for some reason has on HN.

We can do better.

Re: (mac)ostalgia – how Spotify, Slack, Chrome, Figma could look on Mac OS 9

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Post by porcoda »

waspight wrote: post #99
jonpurdy wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s amazing to me how much more usable those UIs are. Not to mention how much more performant they’d be than modern Electron garbage. But forget about Mac OS 9, we don’t even have native OS X or Windows interfaces anymore. Doesn’t help that Apple dropped the ball on following their own UI guidelines.

I think Electron is quite amazing. It does not deserve this bad reputation that it for some reason has on HN.

Amazing and bad reputation are not mutually exclusive. Electron is an impressive engineering accomplishment, but it also has some dimensions that not everyone likes. Electron is great if you're a developer who wants to write apps in javascript+HTML+CSS and put developer preferences over preferences of users. Not everyone agrees that the decisions behind Electron and using it are good decisions.
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