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(mac)ostalgia – how Spotify, Slack, Chrome, Figma could look on Mac OS 9

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Re: (mac)ostalgia – how Spotify, Slack, Chrome, Figma could look on Mac OS 9

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Wow, this is incredible. Can’t imagine how much work this took. Seeing this makes me think about how many modern applications could learn a few things from the old Mac OS 8/9 Human Interface Guidelines. [0] [0] http://mirror.informatimago.com/next/developer.apple.com/doc...

I almost didn’t scroll down and spot the video. What an amazing amount of effort…

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It might be an unpopular opinion (in general), but OS 9 was actually beautiful. The design elements might look clunky by today's standards, but they were quite self-explanatory & functional, as compared to current macOS flat designs. I am stating purely from an angle of being friendly to an absolute beginner (e.g. a kid). I was in middle school in 2001 when I saw a paint program (MacPaint?) on an oyester iBook - It w…

> being friendly to a beginner (e.g. a kid)

My child seems to intuitively get modern UI design, and doesn't seem to need many affordances to understand what to interact with or not. I think people who say older designs are better for beginners may be applying some retrospective thinking.

Re: (mac)ostalgia – how Spotify, Slack, Chrome, Figma could look on Mac OS 9

#13
God... the classy Platinum look is peak MacOS to me. I was never super fond of Aqua, and the modern design ranges from "pretty usable" with Mojave to "I think this is an Ubuntu skin" with Big Sur. Platinum just feels... right, to me at least. It's aged pretty gracefully compared to the look of Windows 98, and manages to look equal parts fun and professional. The only real sticking points are the graphics used in the icons, if they were replaced with more appropriately lo-fi versions of the NeXTStep ones I think it would be a true Renaissance system.

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post #8

It might be an unpopular opinion (in general), but OS 9 was actually beautiful. The design elements might look clunky by today's standards, but they were quite self-explanatory & functional, as compared to current macOS flat designs. I am stating purely from an angle of being friendly to an absolute beginner (e.g. a kid). I was in middle school in 2001 when I saw a paint program (MacPaint?) on an oyester iBook - It w…

> being friendly to a beginner (e.g. a kid) My child seems to intuitively get modern UI design, and doesn't seem to need many affordances to understand what to interact with or not. I think people who say older designs are better for beginners may be applying some retrospective thinking.

Let's not underestimate neuroplasticity. Children can figure out almost anything. If you want a true test of UI intuitiveness then you ought to give the computer to an elderly parent or grandparent.

Anecdotally, my 70-year-old father and several of my elderly uncles & aunts had a much easier time figuring out Classic Mac OS. Modern macOS and iOS are much more complicated. While they still use these systems, they do so in a much more superficial way and they tend to exhibit what (for lack of a better term) I would call a "fear response." That is, when attempting to do a novel task they refuse to experiment and instead resort to asking for help immediately. Classic Mac OS was much better designed to encourage experimentation and avoided surprising the user (in a negative way) as much as possible.

Re: (mac)ostalgia – how Spotify, Slack, Chrome, Figma could look on Mac OS 9

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post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> being friendly to a beginner (e.g. a kid) My child seems to intuitively get modern UI design, and doesn't seem to need many affordances to understand what to interact with or not. I think people who say older designs are better for beginners may be applying some retrospective thinking.

Let's not underestimate neuroplasticity. Children can figure out almost anything. If you want a true test of UI intuitiveness then you ought to give the computer to an elderly parent or grandparent. Anecdotally, my 70-year-old father and several of my elderly uncles & aunts had a much easier time figuring out Classic Mac OS. Modern macOS and iOS are much more complicated. While they still use these systems, they do s…

> If you want a true test of UI intuitiveness then you ought to give the computer to an elderly parent or grandparent.

A second ago the test for intuitiveness was 'a kid'.

Re: (mac)ostalgia – how Spotify, Slack, Chrome, Figma could look on Mac OS 9

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post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> being friendly to a beginner (e.g. a kid) My child seems to intuitively get modern UI design, and doesn't seem to need many affordances to understand what to interact with or not. I think people who say older designs are better for beginners may be applying some retrospective thinking.

Let's not underestimate neuroplasticity. Children can figure out almost anything. If you want a true test of UI intuitiveness then you ought to give the computer to an elderly parent or grandparent. Anecdotally, my 70-year-old father and several of my elderly uncles & aunts had a much easier time figuring out Classic Mac OS. Modern macOS and iOS are much more complicated. While they still use these systems, they do s…

Classic designs were touted as "something you could give to a grandma and a professional alike" in magazines of heydays :)

Re: (mac)ostalgia – how Spotify, Slack, Chrome, Figma could look on Mac OS 9

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post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> being friendly to a beginner (e.g. a kid) My child seems to intuitively get modern UI design, and doesn't seem to need many affordances to understand what to interact with or not. I think people who say older designs are better for beginners may be applying some retrospective thinking.

Let's not underestimate neuroplasticity. Children can figure out almost anything. If you want a true test of UI intuitiveness then you ought to give the computer to an elderly parent or grandparent. Anecdotally, my 70-year-old father and several of my elderly uncles & aunts had a much easier time figuring out Classic Mac OS. Modern macOS and iOS are much more complicated. While they still use these systems, they do s…

I’m not sure that giving the UI to the elderly is a truer test. Whatever difficulty they encounter, it’s just as likely that it could be because a previous experience with a different OS is shaping their expectations, or many other factors. It does seem that “time from 0 to successfully performing a novel task” is a good metric among many.

Re: (mac)ostalgia – how Spotify, Slack, Chrome, Figma could look on Mac OS 9

#20

This would not only look great, but run incredibly fast: Low-res bitmap icons, bitmap fonts, no antialiasing, no composition, etc. On Linux you can still have a pretty old school desktop with some of these elements... but may not run well on HiDPI.

There is a nice Win9x style theme for GTK+3 that works quite well IME. And the look is quite faithful to the original (with some minimal changes for, e.g. modern headerbars).
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