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2021-22 Tesla Model Y earns highest IIHS accolade

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Re: 2021-22 Tesla Model Y earns highest IIHS accolade

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Post by hansendc »

tempestn wrote: post #43
londons_explore wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It isn't something you'll find out from crash tests. It's easy to make vision based automatic braking work perfectly in highly controlled test conditions. Making it work properly on the road is a whole other matter.

I've got a vision-only model Y. I don't know how good the radar-based ones are, but I do know the vision-based adaptive cruise isn't great. Does a fairly poor job of maintaining a consistent distance to the car ahead, compared to other cars I've driven. I also had to turn the automatic emergency braking to its minimum sensitivity setting after it slammed on the brakes a couple times for no reason. So I don't know if…

They turned my radar off when I got the FSD beta. It's hard to tell what is from losing radar versus getting FSD itself, but I think I liked the radar better. It seemed to perform better and have less phantom braking.

Re: 2021-22 Tesla Model Y earns highest IIHS accolade

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Post by nwomack »

tills13 wrote: post #56
blhack wrote: post #44

Own a Y, and absolutely couldn’t explain how much I love this car. That said I am running into a complaint: somebody backed into me in a parking lot last week. The car is still mechanically fine, but with a damaged panel and bumper now. This is a bummer for me, since I’ve been meticulous about washing it, always parking at the end of the lot, etc. car detailing has actually become a hobby as a result of enjoying taki…

It's also insanely expensive to service. I had an Amazon van back into my parked M3. Left a small indent on the right rear quarter panel. Total cost to fix (for Amazon) was $3k CAD.

Seems normal. What are your precious vehicles? My wife’s C250 cost 10K to fix a relatively minor bumper collision.

Re: 2021-22 Tesla Model Y earns highest IIHS accolade

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Post by azinman2 »

hansendc wrote: post #57
azinman2 wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We test drove the Y and passed on it. We found the visibility out of the back poor, all the mirrors tiny, and the headrest also tiny and my head kept rolling off it. Do you not experience these problems?

The rear visibility felt weird when I test drove it for sure, coming from a normal sedan. But, over a year in to ownership, it never feels tiny when driving it. All the cameras and sensors make it a MILLION times better to maneuver in small spaces than my old car. It was more a matter of getting used to something different (and I'd argue objectively better) rather than an overall downside. As for the headrest, I've n…

Why is it objectively better to have less rear visibility? Note you can have both excellent rear AND cameras/sensors.

Do you not feel its tiny when driving on the freeway?

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Post by dawnerd »

blhack wrote: post #44

Own a Y, and absolutely couldn’t explain how much I love this car. That said I am running into a complaint: somebody backed into me in a parking lot last week. The car is still mechanically fine, but with a damaged panel and bumper now. This is a bummer for me, since I’ve been meticulous about washing it, always parking at the end of the lot, etc. car detailing has actually become a hobby as a result of enjoying taki…

They shouldn't have cancelled, they should have pushed your appt out based on what their estimated date is. I'd make another appt and push them to order the part. You can find the part and reference it by number so they have no excuse. Instead of just asking for it to be fixed, ask for a quote and if they could order the part(s) for you. Then you can figure out if you want to try the repair yourself or have them do it once you get it.

https://epc.tesla.com/en/catalogs

I used it recently after hearing they were telling people they couldn't install all season tires on the 21" wheels, but if you reference the new tires by part number (they're new tires) they were able to get a quote and order them.

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Post by loeg »

tills13 wrote: post #56
blhack wrote: post #44

Own a Y, and absolutely couldn’t explain how much I love this car. That said I am running into a complaint: somebody backed into me in a parking lot last week. The car is still mechanically fine, but with a damaged panel and bumper now. This is a bummer for me, since I’ve been meticulous about washing it, always parking at the end of the lot, etc. car detailing has actually become a hobby as a result of enjoying taki…

It's also insanely expensive to service. I had an Amazon van back into my parked M3. Left a small indent on the right rear quarter panel. Total cost to fix (for Amazon) was $3k CAD.

Panel damage is really expensive on all cars.

Re: 2021-22 Tesla Model Y earns highest IIHS accolade

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Post by ricardobeat »

londons_explore wrote: post #25

Is it me, or do they appear to be cheating a little on this test...? The test is designed to test the case where a small overlap causes a traditional crumple zone (designed for full frontal collision) to completely crush and intrude into the passenger compartment. Tesla has solved that by causing the car to deform in such a way to bypass the obstacle. But I bet if they did a test with slightly more overlap, but not f…

You're probably imagining something like the ID4 test: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhIfH3GhsNo

or how the Model 3 fared in 2019: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=be5MLDXUvHE

They seem to have improved this scenario while not lowering any of the other test scores, hard to consider it 'cheating'. The XC40 has a very similar result with the car skipping the barrier (and also earned the highest mark): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZQ6TJ0pZIg

Volvo and Tesla are the only two automakers that have their own crash labs. They've release a video recently talking about their safety program: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KR2N_Q8ep8

Re: 2021-22 Tesla Model Y earns highest IIHS accolade

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Post by rrrhys »

chrisseaton wrote: post #60
richiezc wrote: post #2

Now if they would only deliver mine, 100 days and counting since I ordered it. Price has gone up $5K since I ordered (I'm locked in but can't change anything)... Estimated delivery window: 1/6/22-2/3/22

> gone up $5K since I ordered (I'm locked in but can't change anything) Lol what? Could they increase the price by 100k and there would be nothing you could do about it you're locked in to pay?

"locked in" suggests "locked in at original price"

Re: 2021-22 Tesla Model Y earns highest IIHS accolade

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Post by richiezc »

moduspol wrote: post #59
richiezc wrote: post #2

Now if they would only deliver mine, 100 days and counting since I ordered it. Price has gone up $5K since I ordered (I'm locked in but can't change anything)... Estimated delivery window: 1/6/22-2/3/22

With a date that soon, you must have ordered the Performance, right? I ordered a non-Performance Model Y LR late October and the delivery estimate was May. Then it moved to June. Then three days ago, I got notice it's ready for delivery and they want to deliver between Christmas and the end of the year. I'm planning to go through with it, but I'll be looking at it closely. I guess I'm hoping it's one that someone rej…

MYLR, just a few months back the wait wasn't as long as it is now

Re: 2021-22 Tesla Model Y earns highest IIHS accolade

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Post by richiezc »

rrrhys wrote: post #68
chrisseaton wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> gone up $5K since I ordered (I'm locked in but can't change anything) Lol what? Could they increase the price by 100k and there would be nothing you could do about it you're locked in to pay?

"locked in" suggests "locked in at original price"

yes, this
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