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2021-22 Tesla Model Y earns highest IIHS accolade

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Re: 2021-22 Tesla Model Y earns highest IIHS accolade

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Post by rafale »

londons_explore wrote: post #45
londons_explore wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perhaps regulators should take on a different approach... > Car manufacturers that sell more than 1 million vehicles shall pay $1M per driver, occupant or pedestrian death that occurs involving a car sold by that manufacturer. The payment shall be made irrespective of cause of death, state of maintenance of the car, or fault of any accident. This gives car manufacturers a direct, ongoing and financial incentive to ma…

And optionally, a car company can choose to increase that $1M number to $5M or $10M or even higher, and is then given a star rating for doing so that they can use on marketing material.

You don't have a moral case for that kind of rule though. The end doesn't justify the mean. If a drunk person drives his Chevy through a crowd and kill 10 people, why would GM pay 10 millions?

Our country was built on personal responsibility and accountability as core values. This applies to businesses by extension (business = shareholders).

It's better to simply mandate a certain minimum. Seat belts, backup cameras and ABS are examples.

Re: 2021-22 Tesla Model Y earns highest IIHS accolade

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Post by nwomack »

blhack wrote: post #44

Own a Y, and absolutely couldn’t explain how much I love this car. That said I am running into a complaint: somebody backed into me in a parking lot last week. The car is still mechanically fine, but with a damaged panel and bumper now. This is a bummer for me, since I’ve been meticulous about washing it, always parking at the end of the lot, etc. car detailing has actually become a hobby as a result of enjoying taki…

Hate to break it to you but you will be waiting months to get it fixed. I’ve been waiting on parts for about 3 months to get mine fixed for relatively minor damage. got rear ended by a pickup truck.

Re: 2021-22 Tesla Model Y earns highest IIHS accolade

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Post by blhack »

tedk-42 wrote: post #49
blhack wrote: post #44

Own a Y, and absolutely couldn’t explain how much I love this car. That said I am running into a complaint: somebody backed into me in a parking lot last week. The car is still mechanically fine, but with a damaged panel and bumper now. This is a bummer for me, since I’ve been meticulous about washing it, always parking at the end of the lot, etc. car detailing has actually become a hobby as a result of enjoying taki…

Not like it's critical to the performance of the car. Just wait and the parts will arrive for you...hardly seems like a fair complaint.

Totally agree. My point was that there seems to be a general shortage, and that if it was something necessary for driving, I’d be in trouble.

Re: 2021-22 Tesla Model Y earns highest IIHS accolade

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Post by nwomack »

tedk-42 wrote: post #49
blhack wrote: post #44

Own a Y, and absolutely couldn’t explain how much I love this car. That said I am running into a complaint: somebody backed into me in a parking lot last week. The car is still mechanically fine, but with a damaged panel and bumper now. This is a bummer for me, since I’ve been meticulous about washing it, always parking at the end of the lot, etc. car detailing has actually become a hobby as a result of enjoying taki…

Not like it's critical to the performance of the car. Just wait and the parts will arrive for you...hardly seems like a fair complaint.

I disagree. I have been waiting 3 months for parts, in the mean time my sensors collision don’t work and I have constant annoying dash messages saying my sensors don’t work.

Re: 2021-22 Tesla Model Y earns highest IIHS accolade

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Post by tills13 »

blhack wrote: post #44

Own a Y, and absolutely couldn’t explain how much I love this car. That said I am running into a complaint: somebody backed into me in a parking lot last week. The car is still mechanically fine, but with a damaged panel and bumper now. This is a bummer for me, since I’ve been meticulous about washing it, always parking at the end of the lot, etc. car detailing has actually become a hobby as a result of enjoying taki…

It's also insanely expensive to service. I had an Amazon van back into my parked M3. Left a small indent on the right rear quarter panel. Total cost to fix (for Amazon) was $3k CAD.

Re: 2021-22 Tesla Model Y earns highest IIHS accolade

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Post by hansendc »

azinman2 wrote: post #46
blhack wrote: post #44

Own a Y, and absolutely couldn’t explain how much I love this car. That said I am running into a complaint: somebody backed into me in a parking lot last week. The car is still mechanically fine, but with a damaged panel and bumper now. This is a bummer for me, since I’ve been meticulous about washing it, always parking at the end of the lot, etc. car detailing has actually become a hobby as a result of enjoying taki…

We test drove the Y and passed on it. We found the visibility out of the back poor, all the mirrors tiny, and the headrest also tiny and my head kept rolling off it. Do you not experience these problems?

The rear visibility felt weird when I test drove it for sure, coming from a normal sedan. But, over a year in to ownership, it never feels tiny when driving it. All the cameras and sensors make it a MILLION times better to maneuver in small spaces than my old car. It was more a matter of getting used to something different (and I'd argue objectively better) rather than an overall downside.

As for the headrest, I've never thought about it once myself.

Re: 2021-22 Tesla Model Y earns highest IIHS accolade

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Post by chrisseaton »

tedk-42 wrote: post #49
blhack wrote: post #44

Own a Y, and absolutely couldn’t explain how much I love this car. That said I am running into a complaint: somebody backed into me in a parking lot last week. The car is still mechanically fine, but with a damaged panel and bumper now. This is a bummer for me, since I’ve been meticulous about washing it, always parking at the end of the lot, etc. car detailing has actually become a hobby as a result of enjoying taki…

Not like it's critical to the performance of the car. Just wait and the parts will arrive for you...hardly seems like a fair complaint.

> hardly seems like a fair complaint

Is a reliable parts supply chain not a reasonable expectation of a car?

I can get whatever part I want whenever I want from a diverse set of manufacturers for my Land Rover.

Re: 2021-22 Tesla Model Y earns highest IIHS accolade

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Post by moduspol »

richiezc wrote: post #2

Now if they would only deliver mine, 100 days and counting since I ordered it. Price has gone up $5K since I ordered (I'm locked in but can't change anything)... Estimated delivery window: 1/6/22-2/3/22

With a date that soon, you must have ordered the Performance, right?

I ordered a non-Performance Model Y LR late October and the delivery estimate was May. Then it moved to June. Then three days ago, I got notice it's ready for delivery and they want to deliver between Christmas and the end of the year.

I'm planning to go through with it, but I'll be looking at it closely. I guess I'm hoping it's one that someone rejected just to try and get the BBB tax credit next year that may or may not be actually happening. It'll be a little disappointing if I jump through all these hoops only to find clear issues that led to a rejection.

Re: 2021-22 Tesla Model Y earns highest IIHS accolade

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Post by chrisseaton »

richiezc wrote: post #2

Now if they would only deliver mine, 100 days and counting since I ordered it. Price has gone up $5K since I ordered (I'm locked in but can't change anything)... Estimated delivery window: 1/6/22-2/3/22

> gone up $5K since I ordered (I'm locked in but can't change anything)

Lol what? Could they increase the price by 100k and there would be nothing you could do about it you're locked in to pay?

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