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2021-22 Tesla Model Y earns highest IIHS accolade

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Re: 2021-22 Tesla Model Y earns highest IIHS accolade

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Does anyone know how big of a deal it is to not have radar on newer Tesla 3s and Ys? I don't know which month was the last one to have radar, but it was some time in 2021.

From the article it looks to be April and has improved the model y rating from good / acceptable while model 3 earns a superior rating in both crash avoidance tests from advanced rating

Re: 2021-22 Tesla Model Y earns highest IIHS accolade

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Is it me, or do they appear to be cheating a little on this test...? The test is designed to test the case where a small overlap causes a traditional crumple zone (designed for full frontal collision) to completely crush and intrude into the passenger compartment. Tesla has solved that by causing the car to deform in such a way to bypass the obstacle. But I bet if they did a test with slightly more overlap, but not f…

You might be interested in their use of sensor data to inform future crash testing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KR2N_Q8ep8

Re: 2021-22 Tesla Model Y earns highest IIHS accolade

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post #27

Does anyone know how big of a deal it is to not have radar on newer Tesla 3s and Ys? I don't know which month was the last one to have radar, but it was some time in 2021.

It isn't something you'll find out from crash tests. It's easy to make vision based automatic braking work perfectly in highly controlled test conditions. Making it work properly on the road is a whole other matter.

I've got a vision-only model Y. I don't know how good the radar-based ones are, but I do know the vision-based adaptive cruise isn't great. Does a fairly poor job of maintaining a consistent distance to the car ahead, compared to other cars I've driven. I also had to turn the automatic emergency braking to its minimum sensitivity setting after it slammed on the brakes a couple times for no reason.

So I don't know if the radar-based was better, but the vision-based isn't very good imo. (FWIW the vehicle's been great otherwise.)

Re: 2021-22 Tesla Model Y earns highest IIHS accolade

#44
Own a Y, and absolutely couldn’t explain how much I love this car.

That said I am running into a complaint: somebody backed into me in a parking lot last week. The car is still mechanically fine, but with a damaged panel and bumper now. This is a bummer for me, since I’ve been meticulous about washing it, always parking at the end of the lot, etc. car detailing has actually become a hobby as a result of enjoying taking care of this car.

The problem is that Tesla simply doesn’t have the parts to fix this right now. I made a service appointment, and they sent me a message the next day cancelling it due to a parts shortage.

So I’m kindof at a loss now. My car has a dented/scratched panel, and I can’t even get it fixed. I’d be really frustrated if this was something preventing it from driving.

That said, there’s a reason the for the parts shortage, long order wait times, etc. The model Y is basically a perfect vehicle. I can’t recommend it enough.

(And this article is just a cherry on top. We bought this car originally because we knew it was really safe, and we just had a baby. So reading this is just affirming.)

Re: 2021-22 Tesla Model Y earns highest IIHS accolade

#45

https://danluu.com/car-safety/ This is a big improvement from 2012, before small overlaps became a KPI for safety.

Perhaps regulators should take on a different approach... > Car manufacturers that sell more than 1 million vehicles shall pay $1M per driver, occupant or pedestrian death that occurs involving a car sold by that manufacturer. The payment shall be made irrespective of cause of death, state of maintenance of the car, or fault of any accident. This gives car manufacturers a direct, ongoing and financial incentive to ma…

And optionally, a car company can choose to increase that $1M number to $5M or $10M or even higher, and is then given a star rating for doing so that they can use on marketing material.

Re: 2021-22 Tesla Model Y earns highest IIHS accolade

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post #44

Own a Y, and absolutely couldn’t explain how much I love this car. That said I am running into a complaint: somebody backed into me in a parking lot last week. The car is still mechanically fine, but with a damaged panel and bumper now. This is a bummer for me, since I’ve been meticulous about washing it, always parking at the end of the lot, etc. car detailing has actually become a hobby as a result of enjoying taki…

We test drove the Y and passed on it. We found the visibility out of the back poor, all the mirrors tiny, and the headrest also tiny and my head kept rolling off it. Do you not experience these problems?

Re: 2021-22 Tesla Model Y earns highest IIHS accolade

#48

Is it me, or do they appear to be cheating a little on this test...? The test is designed to test the case where a small overlap causes a traditional crumple zone (designed for full frontal collision) to completely crush and intrude into the passenger compartment. Tesla has solved that by causing the car to deform in such a way to bypass the obstacle. But I bet if they did a test with slightly more overlap, but not f…

The video is just of that one test but multiple Model Ys are crash-tested in different scenarios before the rating is assigned. I think you're talking about the moderate overlap test.

> To qualify for either of the Institute’s two awards, vehicles must earn good ratings in six IIHS crashworthiness evaluations, including the driver-side small overlap front, passenger-side small overlap front, moderate overlap front, original side, roof strength and head restraint tests. They must also be available with a front crash prevention system that earns advanced or superior ratings in both the vehicle-to-vehicle and vehicle-to-pedestrian evaluations.

Re: 2021-22 Tesla Model Y earns highest IIHS accolade

#49
post #44

Own a Y, and absolutely couldn’t explain how much I love this car. That said I am running into a complaint: somebody backed into me in a parking lot last week. The car is still mechanically fine, but with a damaged panel and bumper now. This is a bummer for me, since I’ve been meticulous about washing it, always parking at the end of the lot, etc. car detailing has actually become a hobby as a result of enjoying taki…

Not like it's critical to the performance of the car. Just wait and the parts will arrive for you...hardly seems like a fair complaint.

Re: 2021-22 Tesla Model Y earns highest IIHS accolade

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post #44

Own a Y, and absolutely couldn’t explain how much I love this car. That said I am running into a complaint: somebody backed into me in a parking lot last week. The car is still mechanically fine, but with a damaged panel and bumper now. This is a bummer for me, since I’ve been meticulous about washing it, always parking at the end of the lot, etc. car detailing has actually become a hobby as a result of enjoying taki…

We test drove the Y and passed on it. We found the visibility out of the back poor, all the mirrors tiny, and the headrest also tiny and my head kept rolling off it. Do you not experience these problems?

cameras kind of make all of that less of a concern in my experience.

dunno about the headrest

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