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Re: Tuple: Pair Programming Tool for macOS

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I really like using tuple, but there’s a couple of things I’d really like to see:

- an idea of how much bandwidth it’s currently using or needs. I often find if I’m on a patchy connection it’s unclear how changing the settings will have an effect - make the video face stuff more prominent, especially for multiple monitors. I work 100% remote so when pairing I like to put my Co-workers full size on my second screen while I work on the primary screen, which helps us feel more connected.

Re: Tuple: Pair Programming Tool for macOS

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This looks cool, but I don't use proprietary operating systems for my work environments. Is there any planned support for X11 or Wayland based desktop environments?

Yes! https://tuple.app/linux

> 2021

Only a few days left! I'm so excited :D

Re: Tuple: Pair Programming Tool for macOS

#35

Why would I use this over VSCode liveshare? Genuinely asking, why would I want to run video streaming if I can just send small amount of text deltas.

Or “Code with me” built in to jetbrains.

Which works across platforms too.. which is nice.

It’s the only thing I’ve tried and it works pretty nicely.

Re: Tuple: Pair Programming Tool for macOS

#36

Why would I use this over VSCode liveshare? Genuinely asking, why would I want to run video streaming if I can just send small amount of text deltas.

So far it seems that this is intended as a type of remote KVM instead of a per-application collaboration. I've looked around on the site but haven't really seen any obvious screenshots. Maybe I've seen to much marketing pages and completely miss the 'click here to see how it works' link...

Edit: and as I suspected, on second pass on the homepage it's right there in the middle in the purple bar. And it does seem like it's "TeamViewer but for developers". I suppose in the spirit of 'pair programming' that makes sense, but I'm not sure how streaming an entire desktop is better than streaming only application state if you just want to work together on the same thing.

Re: Tuple: Pair Programming Tool for macOS

#37

I really like using tuple, but there’s a couple of things I’d really like to see: - an idea of how much bandwidth it’s currently using or needs. I often find if I’m on a patchy connection it’s unclear how changing the settings will have an effect - make the video face stuff more prominent, especially for multiple monitors. I work 100% remote so when pairing I like to put my Co-workers full size on my second screen wh…

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Re: Tuple: Pair Programming Tool for macOS

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, it works well, but the only reason we used it instead of Tuple was that it's free right now. Tuple's pricing is rather absurd ($25/user/mo.) unless your org pairs so often you can justify it on the basis of 40 hour/week use. Pop's free tier lets us pop on actual controlled sharing when simple screen sharing isn't enough.

I hear you. We're pricey. Just curious – what would a workable price/model been for you?

Perhaps it's just a value comparison thing. My company pays $5/user/mo. to GitHub for private repos, storage, and GitHub Actions. Every developer uses it every day to accomplish business critical project work. A pairing tool feels more optional to me, especially when Slack's built in screen sharing accomplishes 50% of what we need as part of another service we pay another per user per month fee for already. So a tool that's 5x the cost of GitHub that serves as an optimization for what we do is hard to justify. As a company we could afford it, it would just be a difficult sell, especially when a competitor is still free (turns out "for the duration of the pandemic" is a lot longer than they thought, oops). Of course, if we had a culture that paired on a regular basis, this might be easier, but it's more of a when you need help or want to work together thing, rather than being required.

Additionally, as others have mentioned, I think some of the issue is the lack of a free or low cost personal tier that has some set of restrictions. What those would be for an arbitrary pairing tool I don't know, but it feels really pricey if I just want it available for one-off pairings.

Now, personally, I could sign my OSS project up for a free version, but since I don't need (or want, lol) to pair with most contributors, that feels a bit wrong.

Re: Tuple: Pair Programming Tool for macOS

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Hi folks! I'm one of Tuple's cofounders. Happy to hear any feedback or answer questions :)

I adore Tuple and my team used it really effectively. It’s the best tool out there for remote collab as far as I’m concerned. And with a colleague on a 4G connection the way it’s economical with bandwidth is really appreciated. But we have a few teammates on Linux and we just had to drop it. Is there any possibility of a Linux version?

Yep! Hoping to make it GA soon. https://tuple.app/linux

Re: Tuple: Pair Programming Tool for macOS

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I hear you. We're pricey. Just curious – what would a workable price/model been for you?

On the flip side, I don’t think it’s pricey, $25 per user, per month for something that will make developers more efficient is well worth it. Sent to my Tech Lead to see if he wants to sign up.

My man!
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