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Titanpointe: The NSA’s spy hub in New York, hidden in plain sight (2016)

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How is it attractive? It looks extremely oppressive. I remember coming by that building while walking through Manhattan by chance and thinking this must be some government surveillance center or something.

I can totally understand why one would dislike it, but personally I'm a huge huge fan. My favorite features: - the lack of glass gives the granite façade lots of space to shine. - the off-center elevator shafts on the building's two long sides prevents the entire building from being disorienting at street-level: https://i.imgur.com/DQdWQ36.jpg - the round-rect vent windows contrast with the sharp lines of the granite…

The roundrects give the design a deep kind of uncanny valley effect for me. They suggest some kind of human characteristic, either a hooded face or an orifice of some type, depending on the angle that you look at the building. From street level (e.g., your first photograph), it's like a series of six hooded figures, with another six hooded figures towering over those figures or standing on their backs.

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I can totally understand why one would dislike it, but personally I'm a huge huge fan. My favorite features: - the lack of glass gives the granite façade lots of space to shine. - the off-center elevator shafts on the building's two long sides prevents the entire building from being disorienting at street-level: https://i.imgur.com/DQdWQ36.jpg - the round-rect vent windows contrast with the sharp lines of the granite…

The roundrects give the design a deep kind of uncanny valley effect for me. They suggest some kind of human characteristic, either a hooded face or an orifice of some type, depending on the angle that you look at the building. From street level (e.g., your first photograph), it's like a series of six hooded figures, with another six hooded figures towering over those figures or standing on their backs.

> it's like a series of six hooded figures, with another six hooded figures towering over those figures

Yeah I can see it, especially with the "33" street address. Druids love that shit, like 555 Cal: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/555_California_Street

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Describing it as “hidden” is a bit sensational. I don’t think I can walk past it in a group without someone throwing out this factoid. It’s also unapologetic about what it is—no fake windows or any of that garbage.

If you zoom into it on Google maps, it's labeled as "NSA Building".

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Off topic but...

If I ran an NSA secret spy hub, it wouldn't be called Titanpointe. It would be called something less ridiculous and more mundane like "John's Computer Services". I'd be embarrassed when a name like that kept appearing on documents or for brought up in meetings.

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A fifty story windowless concrete building that's genuinely attractive. Not at all what I expected to discover on the Wikipedia page.

They could have put some fake windows to make it look normal. They do this with data center buildings in my city.

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I just assume every MMR in every data center/building is an NSA hub.

The NSA is actually it's own layer in the OSI model. They won't teach you about this in school, though, but there are even more than 7 layers.... /s

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Off topic but... If I ran an NSA secret spy hub, it wouldn't be called Titanpointe. It would be called something less ridiculous and more mundane like "John's Computer Services". I'd be embarrassed when a name like that kept appearing on documents or for brought up in meetings.

Remember the "Nothing is Beyond Our Reach" mission patch? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USA-247

I sense the people running these things don't care as much as they used to about blending in.

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