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The Politics of Wine in 18th-century England

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Re: The Politics of Wine in 18th-century England

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Having been a wine collector and sometime winemaker I found this fascinating. Claret is truly a cultural force of its own but I'm pleased its power is waning as a tastemaker. (Although less so in the states).

If anyone cares for wine advice AMA even though it is all bullshit there still is good and bad wine which is a strange combination.

Re: The Politics of Wine in 18th-century England

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Having been a wine collector and sometime winemaker I found this fascinating. Claret is truly a cultural force of its own but I'm pleased its power is waning as a tastemaker. (Although less so in the states). If anyone cares for wine advice AMA even though it is all bullshit there still is good and bad wine which is a strange combination.

Have you tried aldi's $3 wines?

Re: The Politics of Wine in 18th-century England

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Having been a wine collector and sometime winemaker I found this fascinating. Claret is truly a cultural force of its own but I'm pleased its power is waning as a tastemaker. (Although less so in the states). If anyone cares for wine advice AMA even though it is all bullshit there still is good and bad wine which is a strange combination.

Thoughts on screwtops?

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post #4

Having been a wine collector and sometime winemaker I found this fascinating. Claret is truly a cultural force of its own but I'm pleased its power is waning as a tastemaker. (Although less so in the states). If anyone cares for wine advice AMA even though it is all bullshit there still is good and bad wine which is a strange combination.

Thoughts on screwtops?

I live in Washington's wine country. A recent quote from a winemaker I spoke with who produces both their own labels and those of other labels: "If consumers would accept them, we'd do everything in screw tops." His reasoning is exactly what you'd expect: cork taint is real, it's difficult to reseal with a cork in the event you don't drink the entire bottle, and if the bottle is going to be cellared for a long time the cork will play a role in how it ages. Plus they seem to be aware of the environmental side + cost of using cork. Synthetic corks are a middle ground that according to the winemakers I've spoken with have the same basic issue - consumers equate natural cork with a higher quality product (at least in the US - apparently in Australia it's entirely screw tops).

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Thoughts on screwtops?

I live in Washington's wine country. A recent quote from a winemaker I spoke with who produces both their own labels and those of other labels: "If consumers would accept them, we'd do everything in screw tops." His reasoning is exactly what you'd expect: cork taint is real, it's difficult to reseal with a cork in the event you don't drink the entire bottle, and if the bottle is going to be cellared for a long time t…

Can confirm, Australian Wine is now almost entirely screw tops.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thoughts on screwtops?

I live in Washington's wine country. A recent quote from a winemaker I spoke with who produces both their own labels and those of other labels: "If consumers would accept them, we'd do everything in screw tops." His reasoning is exactly what you'd expect: cork taint is real, it's difficult to reseal with a cork in the event you don't drink the entire bottle, and if the bottle is going to be cellared for a long time t…

I had a funny bit in a restaurant recently: we asked the waiter to recommend something, and he shows up with a bottle and a corkscrew and a white towel, ready to do the bottle-opening ceremony. He extolled the virtues of the wine, finishing off with "And there is only one drawback..."

And then he twisted off the top.

It was hilarious. I'd love it if all wines were screwtops.

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post #3

Having been a wine collector and sometime winemaker I found this fascinating. Claret is truly a cultural force of its own but I'm pleased its power is waning as a tastemaker. (Although less so in the states). If anyone cares for wine advice AMA even though it is all bullshit there still is good and bad wine which is a strange combination.

Have you tried aldi's $3 wines?

The 3€ Cabernet-Sauvignon from Calfornia is sold for 5€+ in a different bottle at more "upscale" supermarkets. Burlwood IIRC.

Re: The Politics of Wine in 18th-century England

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Having been a wine collector and sometime winemaker I found this fascinating. Claret is truly a cultural force of its own but I'm pleased its power is waning as a tastemaker. (Although less so in the states). If anyone cares for wine advice AMA even though it is all bullshit there still is good and bad wine which is a strange combination.

Why do you hate claret/bourdeaux?

Re: The Politics of Wine in 18th-century England

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thoughts on screwtops?

I live in Washington's wine country. A recent quote from a winemaker I spoke with who produces both their own labels and those of other labels: "If consumers would accept them, we'd do everything in screw tops." His reasoning is exactly what you'd expect: cork taint is real, it's difficult to reseal with a cork in the event you don't drink the entire bottle, and if the bottle is going to be cellared for a long time t…

What's wrong with a simple metal wine stopper with rubber to block the neck of the bottle?
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