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Tor in 2022

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Re: Tor in 2022

#51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Indeed, some CDNs like Akamai do not bother distinguishing relays from exit nodes and just ban everything.

Does this apply to snowflake relays?

The whole point of Snowflake relays is that nobody knows about them. If Akamai knows about it, then it failed.

Re: Tor in 2022

#52
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Honest question: What would be the use case for Tor, as is compromised[1] and painfully slow (judging from my personal experience, using it in the US and Asia, across the years). Is there any occasion where it will be better to use Tor than your self-hosted VPN? 1- https://restoreprivacy.com/tor/

A point-by-point look of your source is a bit much for these comments (and they raise some great points that I either agree with or can't thoroughly rebut), but there's some interesting things in there that make me question the poster. They exclaim against being accused of spreading FUD, but use extremely emotional language and talk in absolutes when the reality is much less clear. For example, they say " 2017 court…

VPNs are great at centralizing paper trails, whether the VPNs themselves keep logs, or the ISPs.

Re: Tor in 2022

#53

Honest question: What would be the use case for Tor, as is compromised[1] and painfully slow (judging from my personal experience, using it in the US and Asia, across the years). Is there any occasion where it will be better to use Tor than your self-hosted VPN? 1- https://restoreprivacy.com/tor/

It's one added layer of protection.

Combine Tor with a VPN.

If your life is on the line with your content the more layers of protection the better.

Re: Tor in 2022

#54
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

One thing i didn't catch is how they are sure that this is "one" great actor. Surely some of these servers were registered with the same fake mail address, but it seems that otherwise they are spread around the world and pretty anonymous. Did i miss something?

It's hinted at in the article that these servers are not stock servers, and the author is able to detect similar divergent behavior in all of these nodes, implying they are all the same non-standard tor software that is doing... something.

In one of the articles, the modified servers were noted as also having an email associated that participated in the tor mailing lists.

Re: Tor in 2022

#55
post #2

isn't tor under the control of US intel agencies now? is there an alternative darknet?

In regards to your second question, yes, there is I2P. https://geti2p.net It's better than Tor in a few ways, in particular how it handles DDOS attacks. I2P is also more focused on facilitating hidden services (eepsites) than being a clearnet proxy. There's also Yggdrasil, although it doesn't seem particularly concerned about anonymity. https://yggdrasil-network.github.io/

For i2p, is there something like tails? Like a hardened read-only OS built to avoid the usual client opsec failures?

Re: Tor in 2022

#56
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Not really related to the article, but what's the origin of picutres like the one used in the article? A few years ago https://www.humaaans.com/ was all the rage, is this something like this too? I can't imagine that each of these images is individually produced, I feel like they are assembled, but I can't find the origin. Edit: answering my own question, https://blush.design/ (link found on the humaans page) has thi…

It reminds me of the styles from the 60s/70s, like from David Ahl's BASIC Computer Games.

https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/1974-basic-computer-g...

Re: Tor in 2022

#57

Honest question: What would be the use case for Tor, as is compromised[1] and painfully slow (judging from my personal experience, using it in the US and Asia, across the years). Is there any occasion where it will be better to use Tor than your self-hosted VPN? 1- https://restoreprivacy.com/tor/

It's one added layer of protection. Combine Tor with a VPN. If your life is on the line with your content the more layers of protection the better.

Why not tor over tor then?

Re: Tor in 2022

#58

Honest question: What would be the use case for Tor, as is compromised[1] and painfully slow (judging from my personal experience, using it in the US and Asia, across the years). Is there any occasion where it will be better to use Tor than your self-hosted VPN? 1- https://restoreprivacy.com/tor/

It comes down to statistics. Using a VPN you are using 1 entity, so all a state actor needs to do is view that one entity's traffic. This may be time consuming and legally challenging if the entity is trustworthy and has servers spread across the globe, but there is still only 1 point that they need to monitor - I suspect many VPN service users are not randomly switching servers. You said "self hosted" VPN which if you are doing that at home it provides no anonymity (which i'm assuming is the point of the comment since the context is Tor). If you host it at a server you are anonymously renting (good luck doing that without opsec failure), it is still only your traffic there, you have no benefit of blending in with others.

With Tor, you can be assured that your attacker needs to monitor more than some % of the network (which can be done either by running nodes themselves or having a wide view of netflow data). Alphabet soup agencies are capable of this, but these attacks are expensive and non-trivial which is why historically the FBI and such use browser exploits the most. You shouldn't rely on Tor alone to protect your life if your adversary is highly skilled or funded, but chalking it up to a VPN is completely discounting the benefit gained from a larger anonymity set in the world's biggest onion routing network.

Re: Tor in 2022

#59

Honest question: What would be the use case for Tor, as is compromised[1] and painfully slow (judging from my personal experience, using it in the US and Asia, across the years). Is there any occasion where it will be better to use Tor than your self-hosted VPN? 1- https://restoreprivacy.com/tor/

It's one added layer of protection. Combine Tor with a VPN. If your life is on the line with your content the more layers of protection the better.

Tor+VPN has various trade offs and is not good for everyone. Generally i would say most people would not benefit from it.

https://matt.traudt.xyz/posts/vpn-tor-not-mRikAa4h/

Re: Tor in 2022

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isn't tor under the control of US intel agencies now? is there an alternative darknet?

I hope not. Tor being used for whistleblowing and censorship circumvention is one thing, but the onion network is pure anarchy and probably the worst case scenario of what the internet could become. https://youtu.be/iItLpwkQMUQ&t=277

It is useful as a free-for-all outside of censorship.

You probably don't want an area free from censorship most people don't. I browse with safe images enabled when searching google images. Once in awhile I'll open it up and see a world that didn't exist before. I don't think that world should be removed even if I rarely visit.

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