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Re: All Bitcoin private keys are on this website

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Post by FabHK »

codeflo wrote: post #100
5e92cb50239222b wrote: post #62

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> The magnitude of 2^256 is close to the count of atoms in the entire observable universe. I've always heard that even 2¹²⁸ is significantly larger than that number (which is closer to 2⁸⁰). This page seems to support that: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Observable_universe#Matter_con...

Look more carefully, the estimation according to Wikipedia is 10^80, which is roughly 2^266. (BTW, when converting 10^x to 2^x, times 3 is what I use for very rough back of the envelope estimations. Times 10/3 is actually almost precise, as log2(10) = 3.32…)

> log2(10) = 3.32

or, to put it in simpler terms,

10^3 = 1000 ≈ 1024 = 2^10

Re: All Bitcoin private keys are on this website

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Post by robbiep »

shawabawa3 wrote: post #195
robbiep wrote: post #177

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Well, theoretically, instantly. But that’s kind of like asking what if I had this potion that instantly cured every disease known to man and then some, what would happen. What sort of quantum computer are you talking about? How many qubits?

not exactly true BTC addresses that have never sent BTC are not vulnerable to quantum computers as the public key is only sent when a transaction is made. The address you send to is a hash of the public key and irreversible even with quantum computers

The more you know. Thankyou

Re: All Bitcoin private keys are on this website

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Post by vmception »

headmelted wrote: post #240
theden wrote: post #26

It's like passively playing the world's worst lottery in terms of odds, but hundreds of thousands of times every second. It's fun but the odds are astronomically low. I have a script[1] that generates a pub+private key and checks against a massive file of addresses with BTC[2]. The list of addresses is loaded in memory as a python `set` so checking is O(1), but I feel like optimisations at increasing the rate are fut…

Sort of. It's like being in the world's biggest ever lottery syndicate, except if you pick the winning numbers it gets sent to a specific other person who's website you're on. If someone, eventually, hits the jackpot then the owner of playxo.com is going to be very, very rich. I mean, I'd assume, cynically. The chances of anyone hitting a green wallet are still incredibly narrow, but you never know.

It get sent to your own private key which everyone else would also have trouble finding. Playxo.com wouldn't get anything out of it, anyone and everyone can have all the private keys of everyone else, playxo's operator or server wouldn't know which private key things are going to, and neither would any other human.

Re: All Bitcoin private keys are on this website

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Post by FabHK »

bhouston wrote: post #203
drexlspivey wrote: post #185

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I’ll take the over

The reason why I think it will be eventually cracked is that technology moves forward and old encryption techniques need to be upgraded, but if Satoshi is dead, he will never upgrade his key. This means that eventually it will be crackable. Encryption over time never holds up as well as people believe it is when it is initially created. I look at MD5, designed in 1991, declared broken and insecure by 2008. SHA1, desi…

There is nothing to crack. You "just" need to guess it. It is impossible for the foreseeable future with technology as we understand it today, and if it becomes possible, then a lot of other things have to change. In other words, if it ever happens, by that time BTC will have become irrelevant.

Re: All Bitcoin private keys are on this website

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Post by stavros »

vmception wrote: post #263
headmelted wrote: post #240

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Sort of. It's like being in the world's biggest ever lottery syndicate, except if you pick the winning numbers it gets sent to a specific other person who's website you're on. If someone, eventually, hits the jackpot then the owner of playxo.com is going to be very, very rich. I mean, I'd assume, cynically. The chances of anyone hitting a green wallet are still incredibly narrow, but you never know.

It get sent to your own private key which everyone else would also have trouble finding. Playxo.com wouldn't get anything out of it, anyone and everyone can have all the private keys of everyone else, playxo's operator or server wouldn't know which private key things are going to, and neither would any other human.

Playxo.com is showing you if a wallet has a balance. Before it ever shows you anything, it can clear that wallet, and that's that.

Re: All Bitcoin private keys are on this website

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Post by stavros »

s5300 wrote: post #99
bspammer wrote: post #78

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This is a rare care where "astronomically low" is actually underselling how unlikely something is.

I mean, I found 10 used wallets not within 1000 pages of the first nor last page of his website in roughly 5 minutes. I’m fully aware behind the math of finding a wallet actually holding anything… but I was fairly weirded out to come across 10 wallets that quickly. Most had their last txn out roughly 2019.

Can you post the page?

Re: All Bitcoin private keys are on this website

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Post by vmception »

stavros wrote: post #265
vmception wrote: post #263

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It get sent to your own private key which everyone else would also have trouble finding. Playxo.com wouldn't get anything out of it, anyone and everyone can have all the private keys of everyone else, playxo's operator or server wouldn't know which private key things are going to, and neither would any other human.

Playxo.com is showing you if a wallet has a balance. Before it ever shows you anything, it can clear that wallet, and that's that.

but anyone can do that. you don't need an API to tell you if the address has a balance if you have the private key, you just check your own copy of the blockchain.... just like they are doing...

fgsfds

Re: All Bitcoin private keys are on this website

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Post by FabHK »

sudhirj wrote: post #245
nielsole wrote: post #40

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Even if there were 10^18 wallets your chance of finding any private key is effectively zero

Yeah, but people seem to have found wallets already. This is more a reminder that the probability is a little different from the naive 1/total possibilities idea.

The birthday paradox speaks to the probability of having a collision, though - in other words, if you randomly try wallets, the probability that you hit one again that you've tried already. That probability is higher than the probability of hitting a non-zero wallet, once you've tried more wallets than there are non-zero wallets.

The birthday paradox says that you need to try sqrt(N) before you have a collision, while here we still need to hit N/k (where k is the number of non-zero wallets) before we find a non-zero wallet, and the latter number is much bigger than the former.

Re: All Bitcoin private keys are on this website

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Post by unnouinceput »

Quote: "A private key is basically just a number between 1 and 2^256"

Anyone who still uses 2^256 as key length deserves to have their bitcoins stolen. Form what I know modern wallets have their keys more like 2^4096, at least. Heck, even Satoshi did that with its wallet, you know the famous >1M bitcoins he mined at beginning.

Re: All Bitcoin private keys are on this website

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Post by ornxka »

henvic wrote: post #204
teekert wrote: post #171

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And then, when you "hit the jackpot", will you become a thief? Or will you just feel like you picked a lock, smile and pull the door back shut.

Why a thief? Bitcoin is a silly idea based on scarcity that doesn't exist. If someone generated the right numbers by chance and had luck, I wouldn't say they'd be doing anything wrong getting whatever is there. It's not the same as stealing data, and is not the same as hacking into a banking system. It's decentralized, and there isn't the concept of real scarcity. It's not even hacking. https://henvic.dev/posts/bitco…

>Bitcoin is a silly idea based on scarcity that doesn't exist.

If its scarcity isn't real, then why can't you conjure up an arbitrary number of bitcoins at will?

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