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Vim is hard, I just want to click around

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Re: Vim is hard, I just want to click around

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Post by shadowfiend »

graywh wrote: post #52
shadowfiend wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also worth remembering is that every command that deletes really cuts . Which is to say, deletion commands like x and dd store the deleted content in the register that will be used when you hit p or P. This is important to know both because it can be very useful sometimes and because it can get in your way other times (e.g., if you're trying to repeat an action and keep replacing a line with another line, you'll have…

Or you can specify the register name. Don't limit yourself to the unnamed register.

Absolutely. My fault for not mentioning it :)

Re: Vim is hard, I just want to click around

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Post by conradev »

Hoff wrote: post #47
andrewvc wrote: post #35

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Or even alias vimtab="gvim -f --remote-tab-silent" in your .bashrc, .zshrc or equivalent

The Mac OS X command open allows this directly: $ open -a macvim filename.ext which permits: $ alias mvim="open -a macvim" as a shortcut.

I have found issue with this recently. When I have multiple tabs open, and then attempt to open multiple files after that, it opens them all in a split view :/

Re: Vim is hard, I just want to click around

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Post by esk »

gnosis wrote: post #58
adgar wrote: post #57

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It has vimscript, but vimscript is at best emacs-lisp's inbred nephew who is just as old but huffs glue and has sex with chickens.

Actually, you can also use mzscheme, perl, python, ruby, and lua to script vim.

Indeed, but that's what the grandparent is saying—you need to bring your own language to the party.

Re: Vim is hard, I just want to click around

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Post by kragen »

Reposting this for horseshoes; it seems to have been mysteriously censored.

Getting familiar with GNU screen and within vim, liberal use of :tabnew foo got me to prefer a terminal emulator for working and notes over eclipse / gedit / nautilus. (gt and gT move to different tabs and :tabm N moves the current tab to tab N btw). If from within vim you :mksession bar.vim, vim saves all your open tabs so you can :wqall and open the tabs again from the shell with vim -S bar.vim

Like seemingly everyone, I organize projects into project/doc, project/src, project/data, project/bin etc. For example, I have a start.vim each in project/doc and project/src.

Then I put lines in ~/.screenrc

  chdir /home/horseshoes/workin/myproject/doc
  screen -t myproject_doc vim -S start.vim
  chdir /home/horseshoes/workin/myproject/src
  screen -t myproject_src vim -S start.vim
  screen -t bash bash
When I start screen it automatically opens one window containing a vim sesh with all my most-looked-at documentation tabs (so I can refer to wth I was thinking and organize my mental pushdown stack a little), one window containing a sesh for the source files I currently work on, and a third window holds a shell so I can look for and alter other files or start sqlite3 or make or w/e.

The point is it fires up work for me so I just have to open a terminal and type screen and it's instantly ready compared to opening eclipse or visual studio and then navigating to the relevant related notes and documents, or cluttering up the place with a billion (or even 2 or 3) terminal emulators, since screen multiplexes them. I also like to have screen windows open with cmus (music) and a python interpreter (my calculator and preferred random 'what to make for dinner' decision maker).

I also prefer the command-line environment for programming and also most general use because of the kool tools it's full of you are no doubt very acquainted with (ls, locate, grep, less, ps, pipes et al).

(End of mysteriously censored post.)

I have no idea why this might have been censored. Maybe it's the obnoxious use of "w/e" as an abbreviation for "whatever"?

Re: Vim is hard, I just want to click around

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Post by burgerbrain »

kragen wrote: post #64

Reposting this for horseshoes; it seems to have been mysteriously censored. Getting familiar with GNU screen and within vim, liberal use of :tabnew foo got me to prefer a terminal emulator for working and notes over eclipse / gedit / nautilus. (gt and gT move to different tabs and :tabm N moves the current tab to tab N btw). If from within vim you :mksession bar.vim, vim saves all your open tabs so you can :wqall and…

horseshoes is hellbanned for this comment: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2928894

This is why I browse with dead comments enabled. A single particularly poor comment is a rather inaccurate indicator of future comment quality.

Re: Vim is hard, I just want to click around

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Post by zvrba »

daleharvey wrote: post #15

I have a hard time watching people traditionally navigate filetrees and tabs with emacs and ido-mode enabled I press Ctrl+X B to open a buffer, Ctrl+X F to open a file, I typically type 2 or 3 characters from the filename and emacs gives me a list of matches (with autocomplete), usually the first suggestion is correct and I press return to open the file. I barely need to think while I do this, there is no visual clut…

I was on the borderline between vim and emacs for a long time. I finally ended up with emacs because it handles editing multiple files and switching between them way better than vim in its default configuration. It also has a saner scripting language. Plus, I get a bunch of goodies, such as org-mode, RPN calculator and an integrated shell. Though I still start vim when I need to edit one or two files on a remote computer via ssh connection.

Re: Vim is hard, I just want to click around

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Post by devth »

eropple wrote: post #45
superalloy wrote: post #17

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The reason that people use (mac)vim is not necessarily the ‘powerful navigation keys’ etc. For me it’s the ability to deal with large files and the crazy indentation rules people use and I know it’s the same for quite some other users. The way people work differs from person to person, the idea that someone should always just keep on trying, even if something doesn't feel right, is in my opinion useless. The real mor…

Agreed - this is pretty much the only reason MacVim lives on my machines. It handles huge files way better than anything else I've tried. I can use vim. I know it pretty well. But the inescapable fact is that, for me, it's clunky and requires more thinking than just using a mouse and pointing at something, then typing what I want to type. I use it because I haven't found something better (and I'm sure it exists, I ju…

It's only clunky when it isn't second nature. If you invest the time required to use it without thinking, you'll find it's quite elegant.

Re: Vim is hard, I just want to click around

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Post by fuzzythinker »

daleharvey wrote: post #15

I have a hard time watching people traditionally navigate filetrees and tabs with emacs and ido-mode enabled I press Ctrl+X B to open a buffer, Ctrl+X F to open a file, I typically type 2 or 3 characters from the filename and emacs gives me a list of matches (with autocomplete), usually the first suggestion is correct and I press return to open the file. I barely need to think while I do this, there is no visual clut…

sublimetext has that feature also, and that's one of the key features that I love about it.
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