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Re: Learn accounting for free

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UK based, so YMMV. Moved from self-employed for the odd side gig, to UK LTD co, to VAT registered UK LTD co. The "business services mafia" will like to frighten you into believing you have to drop hundreds of £ on their services - plus £120/yr for an accounts package, more for payroll, business banking, etc. Because your mind is too tiny to comprehend the ways of the priests. e.g: Don't ever ask a question in a busin…

Does it let you file directly to Companies House? The forums imply you have to hire an accountant to do that.

You can go 2 ways, neither of which are hard.

You can file your accounts (which are trivial for a micro entity) directly with Companies house, or, when you do your CT600 corporation tax return (which is the 6 or so numbers) there's a checkbox marked "also file to companies house".

You absolutely do not need an accountant.

You also get a great deal of time (extra on your first year) between year-end and when you have to submit, so there is no panic.

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Pardon my ignorance if any, but I find financials and accounting as quite boring things. Most problems in these are about tracing numbers, reconciliation and mismatches. What thril one can face in these areas? Any examples of challenges you see ?

I felt the same way until I decided that I needed to understand what was happening with every dollar my wife and I took in, in order for us to make decisions like how much we should invest or keep in savings for emergencies. I ran into all sorts of issues reconciling different information and had to revisit my modeling several times.

Only after discussing with my brother, who went to business school, did I realize I was gradually discovering my own half-assed version of accounting. Then I started reading Wikipedia and Investopedia about accounting topics, and it seemed a lot less dry.

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Background: I'm a qualified accountant, and have taught courses on accounting and finance. My thoughts on OP: I read through the first two parts of the first course on this site: - Part 1 Introduction to Accounting Basics, A Story for Relating to Accounting Basics - Part 2 Income Statement Based on what I read, I could not recommend this. You could get to the end of the 'income statement' part, without encountering a…

If you're a mathy person, you might find this brief explanation is enough to get going. Where I say 'you', I mean 'your company', not you personally. * Assets: things you own (e.g. tractor, money in bank, money owed by customers) * Liabilities: things you owe (e.g. unpaid supplier bills, loan owed to bank) * Assets and liabilities are both measured in a single currency (e.g. $). * Equity (aka 'book value'): A measure…

AFAIK, borrowing money does not change Equity, because it increases Assets (more money in the bank) and Liabilities (more debt) by the same amount so Equity stays the same.

Re: Learn accounting for free

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you're a mathy person, you might find this brief explanation is enough to get going. Where I say 'you', I mean 'your company', not you personally. * Assets: things you own (e.g. tractor, money in bank, money owed by customers) * Liabilities: things you owe (e.g. unpaid supplier bills, loan owed to bank) * Assets and liabilities are both measured in a single currency (e.g. $). * Equity (aka 'book value'): A measure…

AFAIK, borrowing money does not change Equity, because it increases Assets (more money in the bank) and Liabilities (more debt) by the same amount so Equity stays the same.

Where are you borrowing this money without any interest? "Money you borrow" and "cost to borrow that money" are rarely the same value.

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Pardon my ignorance if any, but I find financials and accounting as quite boring things. Most problems in these are about tracing numbers, reconciliation and mismatches. What thril one can face in these areas? Any examples of challenges you see ?

I think accounting has that reputation for a reason, it really is bean counting

All this is theory and essentially a bunch of "hello world" equivalents. In the real world, corporate accounting is much more complex for most companies. I don't know if it makes it more thrilling, but it can be challenging.

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I'm a software engineer who moved into freelance consulting a few years ago (I do back-ends and front-ends for mobile and web, nothing finance specific other than occasional credit card payment integrations). It's been a roller-coaster in many regards and one of the highlights is having learned a lot about bookkeeping, taxes, financial planning and everything that comes with running a small business in general. (Aspe…

UK based, so YMMV. Moved from self-employed for the odd side gig, to UK LTD co, to VAT registered UK LTD co. The "business services mafia" will like to frighten you into believing you have to drop hundreds of £ on their services - plus £120/yr for an accounts package, more for payroll, business banking, etc. Because your mind is too tiny to comprehend the ways of the priests. e.g: Don't ever ask a question in a busin…

This sounds like every interaction I've had asking a question in a plumbing/electrician forum. Oh, if you're asking that question your definitely going to poison your entire house with sewer gas and/or burn the place down with that wiring.

Re: Learn accounting for free

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This is really cool! I constantly hear people complaining about accountants creating problems by not understanding how "things really work" so it would be great to be able to see things from an accounting perspective!

That's like a baseball player telling a Newtonian physicist that they don't understand how things really work. In some sense they're right, in that there are higher level details that are hard to capture in the math, and technically, the math does not describe an even lower level of reality. But there's still a lot that someone operating from an intuitive understanding can learn from someone who brings an analytical framework.

Re: Learn accounting for free

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Pardon my ignorance if any, but I find financials and accounting as quite boring things. Most problems in these are about tracing numbers, reconciliation and mismatches. What thril one can face in these areas? Any examples of challenges you see ?

I'm a CPA and have undergraduate and graduate degrees in accounting. To be completely honest, the bulk of financial accounting is not that thrilling. The bulk of the profession is spent keeping up with the regulations for tracing numbers, reconciling schedules, and "accounting" for things.

But let me share what makes the field thrilling for me:

Accounting is a universal language for valuing time. Clocks allow us to measure time, but accounting allows us to assign time value. It, quite literally, allows us to compare apples to oranges (or Apple to Amazon).

This is important because time is the single most valuable resource any of us have. It's both the scarcest resource and the most liquid, but it's only liquid in one direction. Time can be exchanged for anything: food, drink, entertainment, love, death. But nothing can be exchanged for more time in my life.

We can, however, exchange our time for the time of others. Without being able to do this, our quality of lives would be terrible. But how many of my programming-hours is worth a T-shirt? How many chai-latte-making-hours is worth a heart transplant? It's not enough to count the hours, we have to assign value to the hours. Accounting is the system and language we use to value different units of time. It's a universally applicable language that is consistent in its application. It applies to a child running a lemonade stand and trillion dollar multinationals. Whether you're a charity or a bank, a government or a revolutionary, the rules of accounting are applicable to whatever it is that you're doing, whatever is it that you've done in the past, and whatever it is that you'll do in the future.

Currently, I work as a software engineer for a fintech company, and I find that the most fun I have at work is engineering something from scratch. Thinking of the architecture, mocking up the algorithms, and implementing a new solution to a problem is vastly more thrilling than maintaining existing systems or hotfixing minor bugs. Yet, the bulk of my job is maintaining systems that other people built. And, if I'm being honest, sometimes boring.

Similarly, the thrill of accounting is in learning how to more appropriately account for transactions, new goods, or new services. How should we account for someone who mines a crypto currency? How should we account for someone who trades a crypto but doesn't mine it? How do we account for auto insurance for self-driving cars? These are the thrilling aspects of accounting.

But for the bulk of the job, it's probably a bit boring. Working on a team to fix other people's technical mistakes. Reviewing documentation, getting access to various systems. Sounds a bit like software engineering!

Re: Learn accounting for free

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you're a mathy person, you might find this brief explanation is enough to get going. Where I say 'you', I mean 'your company', not you personally. * Assets: things you own (e.g. tractor, money in bank, money owed by customers) * Liabilities: things you owe (e.g. unpaid supplier bills, loan owed to bank) * Assets and liabilities are both measured in a single currency (e.g. $). * Equity (aka 'book value'): A measure…

AFAIK, borrowing money does not change Equity, because it increases Assets (more money in the bank) and Liabilities (more debt) by the same amount so Equity stays the same.

Sorry, yes, I should have been more clear!

1. Profit/loss measures changes in equity resulting from operating activity, as opposed to financing activities (which just rearrange how the company is financed).

2. Examples of financing activities are taking out (or paying back) loans, issuing (or buying back) shares, and issuing dividends.

3. Some (not all, as you point out!) of those financing activities will increase or decrease equity. So, when thinking about profit as the rate of change of book value, you should be careful add back any changes that are the result of financing activities. (specifically: ignore changes in equity due to money going to, or coming from, shareholders)

Re: Learn accounting for free

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Pardon my ignorance if any, but I find financials and accounting as quite boring things. Most problems in these are about tracing numbers, reconciliation and mismatches. What thril one can face in these areas? Any examples of challenges you see ?

my two cents - bookkeeping (the act of doing all the transactions that result in financial statements) is quite boring, but at the end of the day the purpose of accounting is to provide information around the financial condition and results of the business, which it turn is and should be used to make decisions around the future of the business.

Accounting (in its various forms (financial, cost, mgmt, tax)) should help you answer questions like: what is our most profitable product? how much does it cost to make that product? was that acquisition/investment successful? sales are going up and net income is positive, why don't we have any cash?

But when you get under the hood, there is a lot of subjectivity around how to make accruals, allocate revenue and expenses, or capitalization policies.

Furthermore, many people in different organizations are incented on financial metrics (sales, EBITDA, EPS, equity value, etc) and as such have are keenly focused on gamesmanship around the calculation of those numbers.

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