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Tesla remotely unlocks Model 3 car, uses smart summon to help repo agent
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Re: Tesla remotely unlocks Model 3 car, uses smart summon to help repo agent
#252Earlier quoted context omitted.
> someone with the key can now remote summon the car Cars with remote summons features today basically just crawl forward a few metres to help you get out of a parking spot. They aren't self-driving across town to a repossession lot, if that's what you're thinking.
A first step. Won’t be long before the car goes to the repossession lot itself. Tesla is evolving country music: not only will your girl leave you, so will your truck.
To further this, what are the parameters before requesting the RTB option? If the car is currently driving (assuming the "owner" is currently using the car), will it reroute with them in as an involuntary passenger? Before attempting to RTB, will it determine the route and distance necessary and determine the amount of charge required and then verify there's enough? Will the car need to be in park for a minimum amount of time first? What if it's parked and I'm loading my small child into a car seat when the RTB order is issued? Will it start driving away with my kid? What if the car is currently plugged in when the RTB is ordered? Will it rip out the charging cable and cause further damage to the car or my house? Who will be responsible for that damage?
Soooo many questions.
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#253Earlier quoted context omitted.
I agree, though I think that ideally companies are advocates for their customers. For example, companies have to turn information over to courts, but they can push back on some, and publish transparency reports for others. Yes, they have to comply with the law, but imo a company has an obligation to advocate for their customers.
Tesla were helping the legal owner of one of their vehicles take possession of it. If you were the legal owner, wouldn't you want that?
The legal owner and the Tesla customer don't have to be the same person.
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#254Earlier quoted context omitted.
In the US a financed car is “owned” by the bank until fully paid off - which most of the time is a subsidiary of the manufacturer. A lot of Teslas are also just leased.
It's not owned by the bank until you foreclose, after which it's most certainly owned by the bank. As an aside, how often is it for the manufacturer/dealer to own the bank that issues auto loans. I got mine from Capital One, and I assumed most auto loans outside of the sketchy loanshark used car dealers were issued by the big national banks
In most states the financing bank owns the title to the car and is the "Legal Owner" as opposed to the "Registered Owner" who is the one who is buying the car.
The used market is likely different but for new cars from Dealerships, GM Financial, Toyota Financial, Ford Credit etc are Billion Dollar subsidiaries.
Re: Tesla remotely unlocks Model 3 car, uses smart summon to help repo agent
#255Knowing that Musk had the project to let your car drive as an automatic taxi without you, this is not surprising. We will have to get used to cars doing stuff without their driver.
Re: Tesla remotely unlocks Model 3 car, uses smart summon to help repo agent
#256I had a medical bill for a small amount like $60 sent to collections because they didn’t have the right address. Never called or emailed me. Judging by the comments here, the healthcare co would be well within its rights to pickpocket me.
What was the outcome? I am currently in the same situation.
he declared bankruptcy
Re: Tesla remotely unlocks Model 3 car, uses smart summon to help repo agent
#257Earlier quoted context omitted.
A first step. Won’t be long before the car goes to the repossession lot itself. Tesla is evolving country music: not only will your girl leave you, so will your truck.
Ha. Though my guess is, once self-driving is reliable enough to do that, the economics of car ownership are going to flip completely. It won't make sense anymore to have a car that spends most of its time sitting unused in your garage.
Every body says this but how many of us are going to want randos treating our vehicles like shit because its a rental?
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#258A bunch of years ago, when Tesla and Google's car were only just starting and it was fashionable to discuss the implications of self-driving cars, one dude wrote (approximately): > People are discussing: if the car has to choose between running over a pedestrian and sacrificing the driver's life, what should it choose? Well it's obvious: the driver pays for the car, so they wouldn't buy a car that kills them in case…
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From 2014: Ford Exec: 'We Know Everyone Who Breaks The Law' Thanks To Our GPS In Your Car https://www.businessinsider.com/ford-exec-gps-2014-1 I too wish that there would be an easy way to disconnect my car (it is of zero use to me).
It may be preferable to have some automated system that fines you for excessive speeding versus the alternative: police with guns. At least in the United States.
Speed cameras do that, and without my own car spying on me.
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#260Earlier quoted context omitted.
Ha. Though my guess is, once self-driving is reliable enough to do that, the economics of car ownership are going to flip completely. It won't make sense anymore to have a car that spends most of its time sitting unused in your garage.
People keep saying this, but I don't get it. The majority of your possessions spend most of their time sitting idle. Even if I just look at the higher value ones: my riding lawnmower gets used for a couple of hours every few weeks, my garden tractor/snowblower even less frequently, then I've got a trailer, a truck, miscellaneous tools, etc. I could rent every single one of these, but don't because the economics don't…
It's the same crap preached by the cloud infrastructure folks trying to get everyone on a rental/sharecropping model. Ah those sweet rents