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Tesla remotely unlocks Model 3 car, uses smart summon to help repo agent

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Re: Tesla remotely unlocks Model 3 car, uses smart summon to help repo agent

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Post by maxdo »

prmoustache wrote: post #41

As a bicycle and old motorcycles user I am gobsmacked that so much people accept that the vehicule they are using is connected or regularly phone home to the manufacturer. I guess if you share all your life on facebook and instagram, why shouldn't you also give away all your errands to any third party. Is there at least a license agreement you are showned at and have to agree to upon delivery? Can you operate those v…

Why would I want so? I want to warm up/cool the car before i get into it, listen for the music without plugging my phone every time , have a decent gps that is free, notify me about traffic, tell me if the charging station i'm going to is busy, alert me if someone is breaking in into my car. Heck I can even check the camera's from my App so I don't need to run if this is false alarm. I can even say something to this person to scare him away before he/she broke the glass.

Thank you but no. Tesla sales are skyrocketing because people want smart car that makes their life easier, safer. Legacy car makers also trying to keep up with trend.

It's a typical misconception. You were young back in the days the car didn't have all this amazing features. Not having this features doesn't this car magical just because of your sentiments about you been young. Driving a dumb car will not make you younger either.

I'll surprise you, most of tesla owners pay extra money ($10/mo) to have a better connectivity. Not the other way around.

Re: Tesla remotely unlocks Model 3 car, uses smart summon to help repo agent

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Post by ghaff »

lotsofpulp wrote: post #163
oconnor663 wrote: post #142

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ha. Though my guess is, once self-driving is reliable enough to do that, the economics of car ownership are going to flip completely. It won't make sense anymore to have a car that spends most of its time sitting unused in your garage.

It depends how easily they can be cleaned of others’ odors and messes, and how often they need to get cleaned. Presumably if the rate of mess is low enough and there are extra cars, you would just request a new one. Then they punish the person who left the mess or odor, disincentivizing them from doing it again. Probably need cameras monitoring the inside of the car.

It's not so much messes. Rentals, including short-term ones, are a thing today. But rather there's a lot of value to many people to have the car that they want when they want it, leaving certain belongings in the car, having the car equipped for their purposes whether child seats or roof racks, etc.

While I honestly don't expect door to door self driving in most places for decades, a lot of people who don't use cars much probably underestimate the degree to which many people customize their vehicles. And even if they sit a lot of the time, most of the cost is often in miles, not time.

Re: Tesla remotely unlocks Model 3 car, uses smart summon to help repo agent

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Post by test6554 »

gonzoflip wrote: post #176

I think the personal freedom and privacy implications of self driving cars with centralized communication are rarely talked about. What happens when your vehicle decides you can't travel to an area of civil unrest (for your safety), or refuses to drive you to the gun store?

Ramming into protesters vehicle package should be selected at time of purchase and will cost an extra $74.99.

Re: Tesla remotely unlocks Model 3 car, uses smart summon to help repo agent

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Post by test6554 »

izacus wrote: post #169

So at what point will Teslas also start snitching on their own owners and other drivers for driving too fast, being in the wrong place at the time a crime happened and reporting copyrighted music played in the wrong country? Is there already a design doc for that somewhere in Teslas ticketing system?

Once all cars are self-driving, I doubt they will exceed the speed limit by much. But perhaps speed limits will increase in some places.

Re: Tesla remotely unlocks Model 3 car, uses smart summon to help repo agent

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Post by db65edfc7996 »

lotsofpulp wrote: post #163
oconnor663 wrote: post #142

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ha. Though my guess is, once self-driving is reliable enough to do that, the economics of car ownership are going to flip completely. It won't make sense anymore to have a car that spends most of its time sitting unused in your garage.

It depends how easily they can be cleaned of others’ odors and messes, and how often they need to get cleaned. Presumably if the rate of mess is low enough and there are extra cars, you would just request a new one. Then they punish the person who left the mess or odor, disincentivizing them from doing it again. Probably need cameras monitoring the inside of the car.

In a world where car ownership is limited, I can imagine that the car interiors would be changed drastically. Something like a subway car with hard plastic seats and easily sanitized surfaces.

Re: Tesla remotely unlocks Model 3 car, uses smart summon to help repo agent

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Post by Larrikin »

notreallyserio wrote: post #157
ctdonath wrote: post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A first step. Won’t be long before the car goes to the repossession lot itself. Tesla is evolving country music: not only will your girl leave you, so will your truck.

I'm hopeful that by the time cars can be automatically repossessed without a human operator they'll have set up a network of on-demand rentals and I won't have to worry about car ownership and all the nonsense it entails.

Do you actually prefer the subscription hell we are in now with companies like Adobe deciding we can no longer actually own any software and have to continuously rent it?

Google actually seems like they will be first to full self driving. My biggest fear is that they continue to have zero interest in being an actual car company and keep all their Waymo tech locked behind their taxis and Lyfts are replaced by Waymos with no reduction in price, just a loss job for the person who would normally drive the Lyft. Other companies follow suit and the self driving car dream is ruined to make C suite executives richer.

Re: Tesla remotely unlocks Model 3 car, uses smart summon to help repo agent

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Post by unbanned »

izacus wrote: post #169

So at what point will Teslas also start snitching on their own owners and other drivers for driving too fast, being in the wrong place at the time a crime happened and reporting copyrighted music played in the wrong country? Is there already a design doc for that somewhere in Teslas ticketing system?

Just checked, there's ability to phone home given particular driving conditions for safety.

Re: Tesla remotely unlocks Model 3 car, uses smart summon to help repo agent

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Post by gonzoflip »

test6554 wrote: post #183
gonzoflip wrote: post #176

I think the personal freedom and privacy implications of self driving cars with centralized communication are rarely talked about. What happens when your vehicle decides you can't travel to an area of civil unrest (for your safety), or refuses to drive you to the gun store?

Ramming into protesters vehicle package should be selected at time of purchase and will cost an extra $74.99.

Hmmm, I feel like this reply is making light of other's deaths. I was more talking about the ability to attend a protest. I believe in personal freedom, as well as personal responsibility.

Re: Tesla remotely unlocks Model 3 car, uses smart summon to help repo agent

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Post by flutas »

chrisseaton wrote: post #122
Retric wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most US car dealerships will make a new key for someone repossessing a car. As Tesla is the dealership this seems like the exact same situation, the only difference is someone with the key can now remote summon the car.

> someone with the key can now remote summon the car Cars with remote summons features today basically just crawl forward a few metres to help you get out of a parking spot. They aren't self-driving across town to a repossession lot, if that's what you're thinking.

> Cars with remote summons features today basically just crawl forward a few metres to help you get out of a parking spot.

Smart summon on a M3 (what the article is talking about) can back out and navigate parking lots... although horribly and slowly. But it's not just a straight line.

Re: Tesla remotely unlocks Model 3 car, uses smart summon to help repo agent

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Post by aasasd »

A bunch of years ago, when Tesla and Google's car were only just starting and it was fashionable to discuss the implications of self-driving cars, one dude wrote (approximately):

> People are discussing: if the car has to choose between running over a pedestrian and sacrificing the driver's life, what should it choose? Well it's obvious: the driver pays for the car, so they wouldn't buy a car that kills them in case of an incident.

I guess now that we're headed straight into cyberpunk, the driver's wish turns out to be not that important. The overriding concern is actually: what will make the company look better. If swerving into trees wins points for Tesla for saving pedestrians' lives, so be it.

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