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My parents collect cans for a living

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Re: My parents collect cans for a living

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Do the bottles need to be full size, or do they accept crushed ones?

For plastic bottles at least for the machine you would have to un-crush it, it scans the bottle. For beer bottles, I dunno, try it out and report back?

It would be quite a long trip for me to try it.

Re: My parents collect cans for a living

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During the great recession I had a co worker, a legendary game designer in some circles, tell me he was collecting cans to pay for gas. When he was unemployed he was desperate for any type of work. I was more interested in how gentrification makes her family's life harder. Back when I was 19 you could get a place in LA for 600$. Now same place is 1300$, no matter how many shifts or cans you pick up your not covering…

American households are intended/designed to purchase property. If you don't, you're perpetually at the whims of the housing market. You may agree or disagree with this as a way to structure society, but renting long-term is always going to be a losing proposition outside of some very specific situations. The biggest source of middle class wealth is real estate for a myriad of reasons.

Re: My parents collect cans for a living

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The writing in this article is incredible and I have nothing but admiration for the author and her family. But, to me, this situation is what’s wrong with America. Why are people who are clearly so hard working struggling to get by?

It's not a "problem" per se, it's unskilled, untrained labor and someone with no resources trying to make it. Not all hard work gets a reward. Not everyone has a happy ending. While statistically, you have a better chance of making a "high" salary in the USA, it really also depends on what you do and who you know. Picking up cans also sounds like they could be undocumented, with no "legal" work papers. Many times, it…

I think the one bit you've not covered here is the children. While the parents likely will live a life of difficulty and work, their children become part of the American education pipeline that makes it quite likely they will be, if nothing else, integrated into society in a manner that will make their taking the next upward class step much easier. The parents are taking the hit to their livelihoods and careers to enable the next generation to be more successful. It's not a guarantee, but probably more upward mobility here.

Re: My parents collect cans for a living

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Here in Norway a half litre or smaller container has a deposit of 2 kr, bigger containers are 3 kr (22 and 33 US cent respectively). But it isn't the size of the deposit that drives the return rate (95% or more here in Norway) it is the ease of doing it. Here all shops that sell such goods are required to accept the containers in return even if they were not purchased in that shop and even if they are of a different…

Saw that at your neighboor's in Copenhagen, and after the first outrage of paying +50cts per drink, I understood that I was seeing a glimpse the future… If littering is equivalent to throwing money, you simply won't do it. Weird side-effect: homeless people might ask for your empty bottle and do the collection. Not sure how I feel about that though…

I am not a rich man but the homeless guy needs the 50 cents more than I do. And I rather have homeless people collect cans than making street music to be honest...

Re: My parents collect cans for a living

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> Same in Germany Too many stores refuse to take bottle types that they don't sell though. I am often left with one or two bottles that technically should be eligible, but I have to take them back with me. The Norwegian way seems more convenient for consumers.

I think from a certain size on, they have to take them back. I understand smaller stores not wanting/having to bother. But maybe I'm wrong, after all I almost exclusively buy from REWE, so it's never something I encounter personally.

I think my most recent experience was a LIDL that wouldn't take a beer bottle from REWE.

Re: My parents collect cans for a living

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The only issue is that glass bottles are too cheap and heavy. They should at least have a 25 cent deposit as well. Right now no homeless person picks those up, because it's just not worth it. Even with 25 cents there would still be a disincentive due to the weight, but I also don't want to incentivize bottle makers to produce more plastic, for them to lower the price at the counter.

I don't understand the point of recycling glass. Most glass is mostly sand, an abundant raw material.

Garbage collectors don't want to handle glass when it's mixed in with the other waste. So it is already collected separately. Might as well recycle it.

Re: My parents collect cans for a living

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> Jessia is the American dream. She's the one who made it, unlike thousands of others, who worked equally hard, and didn't. No family should have both parents working 12 hours a day just to survive, period.

Who gets to define "made it"? Did the electrician or garbage truck driver who's parents came from just as much not also make it? Why is it implied in so many comments around here that anyone who didn't go to college and get a white collar job pushing papers/code/spreadsheets didn't make it?

Electricians probably make more than half of the folks commenting on HN.

Re: My parents collect cans for a living

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My family used to do this all the time when we were kids. We'd go along the ditches on the side of the road and make a family outing of it on weekends. At the beach my brother and I would drag big plastic garbage bags around and collect as much as we could from people who were happy to help some kids out and also happy to be rid of the bottles and cans. You could make some decent coin at it, but that was also in the…

My mom worked at a university so after school I’d take the bus there and go to a few spots and collect bottles and cans, which gave me some money to go to the campus store and get a snack.

Everyone was a winner!

Re: My parents collect cans for a living

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post #105

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Saw that at your neighboor's in Copenhagen, and after the first outrage of paying +50cts per drink, I understood that I was seeing a glimpse the future… If littering is equivalent to throwing money, you simply won't do it. Weird side-effect: homeless people might ask for your empty bottle and do the collection. Not sure how I feel about that though…

> Weird side-effect: homeless people might ask for your empty bottle and do the collection. Not sure how I feel about that though… It becomes a respectful cooperation. When you party in a park, you place your containers next to a trash so a homeless can pick it up without searching the trash. They basically help you partying hard (and not caring/carrying about the bottles) and earn (by hard work) a bit of money.

i have seen some trash cans in Oslo with a separate cylinder for bottles that gives easy access to the bottles. I hope this becomes more popular, so that they don't have to dig through the trash cans.

Re: My parents collect cans for a living

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> Same in Germany Too many stores refuse to take bottle types that they don't sell though. I am often left with one or two bottles that technically should be eligible, but I have to take them back with me. The Norwegian way seems more convenient for consumers.

I think from a certain size on, they have to take them back. I understand smaller stores not wanting/having to bother. But maybe I'm wrong, after all I almost exclusively buy from REWE, so it's never something I encounter personally.

I encounter this mostly when buying craft beer from a specialized store. These import bottles have Pfand too, but you can't return them to any machine. Have to remember which ones go back to the craft beer shop. Which is kinda obvious though, so I'm not complaining.
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