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Re: Overview of alternative open source front-ends for popular internet platforms

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Post by dmos62 »

grishka wrote: post #58
j1elo wrote: post #32

> On July 26, 2021, Austin Huang (maintainer of Barinsta) received a cease & desist letter from Perkins Coie LLP, a law firm representing Facebook. As a result, Barinsta is no longer maintained or distributed. I had been a user of Barinsta, until the creator was hit with legal threats from Facebook. It was then when I saw it clear that these types of projects are better to be developed anonymously, so without any add…

The big problem with our society is that somehow there apparently are laws that would protect these companies from adversarial interoperability, so these threats actually have teeth. I kinda wish to see one of such cases brought to a court to see it ruled in favor of the developer.

Adversarial interoperability is an oxymoron. It's a company being adversarial and not wanting to interoperate.

Re: Overview of alternative open source front-ends for popular internet platforms

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Post by jonititan »

https://twitter.com/matrixdotorg/status/1471191916838633481?...

This would be nice if it happens. I have fond memories of pidgin and similar and being able to use multiple messenger accounts from one program.

This would be a key enabler here as well for alternative front ends or interfaces to platforms. Reducing platforms to their API and a "platform preferred" front end.

I mean obviously the EU is strongly motivated by wanting their companies to have a stronger chance at competing with US FANG companies but it's still a good move for the users.

Re: Overview of alternative open source front-ends for popular internet platforms

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Post by flotzam »

dmos62 wrote: post #61
grishka wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The big problem with our society is that somehow there apparently are laws that would protect these companies from adversarial interoperability, so these threats actually have teeth. I kinda wish to see one of such cases brought to a court to see it ruled in favor of the developer.

Adversarial interoperability is an oxymoron. It's a company being adversarial and not wanting to interoperate.

It's just a term of art:

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2019/10/adversarial-interopera...

Re: Overview of alternative open source front-ends for popular internet platforms

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Post by cloogshicer »

netfortius wrote: post #23

Where is YouTube Vanced?

Is there anything like this for iOS? I don't mind building from source. I mainly care about PiP (Picture-in-Picture), and ad blocking, but I'd love to keep my video history (and time left off) synced.

Re: Overview of alternative open source front-ends for popular internet platforms

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Post by driverdan »

boomboomsubban wrote: post #19
artificialLimbs wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hey Siri, call $restaurant in $currentCity.

That's a fine solution if I'm only curious about whether one place is open. I want to know what options I have and I may want to do it late at night or in the morning rather than call twenty places during a busy period.

Calling them is literally how people did it for decades. I think you can make due.

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Post by Vinnl »

topdancing wrote: post #53
boomboomsubban wrote: post #2

How tightly does Facebook lock their stuff down to barely get a mention here? I deactivated my account years ago, and my only interaction is checking things like local restaurants and groups to see their schedules or other such public information and it's hell. Say I want to eat out on Christmas eve. Around 80% of local restaurants will only publicly say if they're open on a Facebook post, and like half of those will…

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:opening_hours You go around, survey the opening hours posted on local restaurants (I usually take a photo, and don't copy and paste from other sources as this normally goes against their T&C) and then add these to openstreetmap.org. Then next time apps like organicmaps.app update, you'll have all the local opening hours for restaurants and things directly on your device. I have…

For an actually easy-to-use method for collecting opening hours (and lots of other data, if you're interested): https://github.com/streetcomplete/StreetComplete/#download

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Post by artificialLimbs »

boomboomsubban wrote: post #19
artificialLimbs wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hey Siri, call $restaurant in $currentCity.

That's a fine solution if I'm only curious about whether one place is open. I want to know what options I have and I may want to do it late at night or in the morning rather than call twenty places during a busy period.

This is a serious problem. Maybe an opportunity for a SaaS solution with a monthly fee.

Re: Overview of alternative open source front-ends for popular internet platforms

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Post by dmos62 »

flotzam wrote: post #64
dmos62 wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Adversarial interoperability is an oxymoron. It's a company being adversarial and not wanting to interoperate.

It's just a term of art: https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2019/10/adversarial-interopera...

Thanks for setting me straight!
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