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Against 3x Speed

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Re: Against 3x Speed

#151
post #45

The argument against 3x seems to be a false dichotomy. I'd like to see a comparison of the author's recommendation of spaced repetition combined with "Mike's" 3x speed-listening. Increase your intake density and still get the superpowers of retention that SR proffers. Per the author's charts you can increase the information density by either switching languages or speeding up the current language, so find the maxima…

Also probably not so much about speed than not pausing to think about what you have just read/viewed/watched ?

Re: Against 3x Speed

#152
post #98

I am one of these people. I regularly watch movies, TV, and YouTube at 3-4x (with subtitles, if available). It is easy to forget several of the 4 movies I watch in a 2 hour period, but I have a watched list, and could remember any detail once I have the reference to latch onto. Worst case, I could watch any piece of content 3 times before a 'normal' finishes it once. For any thing confusing, double-tap back 10 second…

Your post reminded me of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_o7qjN3KF8U This is fantastic satire :-)

Re: Against 3x Speed

#153

There are three kinds of learning - new contextual framework (There is no god, armies used to be retinues of retinues) - new skills (make fire from sticks, algebra and calculus) - new information (Henry V won at agincourt) The big important ones are the contextual frameworks. Without them humanity and individual humans are just floundering. And if there is any big political divide it's because people are not in same…

Precisely.

OP has his finger in some of the right places, but is overly broad about both learning methods and objects. If you're listening to conference keynotes @ 3X... that might be fine. A tutorial probably requires multiple listens, rewinds, a transcript and some DIY work.

Re: Against 3x Speed

#154
Wow, the article is describing me... although instead of podcasts I read books (not many, like at most 15-20 per year). But over the years, even if "True learning requires contemplation" (which I agree with), I have found out that I indeed have gained quite a lot of knowledge and nowadays the time I spent reading is paying off (i.e., I'm good enough at a job that pays well that I don't have to spent the official 40h/week, but instead I spent like half of it).

> Mike is so busy preparing for the future that he never steps into it.

This is what scares me because, again, it rings true. But some part of me thinks "You need to prepare yourself for the future! Whatever that future is!", so for me that preparation usually means "get more knowledge and get a better paycheck to have enough money to not depend on a company or government to live decently... or build something for yourself and found your own company". That's my paradox: either I relax a bit in the present and risk my (unknown) future, or I risk my present to allow me to be a bit more relaxed in the (unknown) future. I try to balance it, but it's hard.

Re: Against 3x Speed

#155
post #4

I get the point you're making - but honestly I have to raise the counter argument, which I think is equally valid. Take for example, the average lecture video. The information density is so low, that I'd imagine that a 60 minute video could be compressed into 10-12 minutes without any loss of information. It really depends on what you're listening to/watching.

I think some of the replies and likes to your reply are kinda hilarious.

You went through the entire article, misunderstood the point (aka he's talking about people who are cramming information, not people who are using it to skip filler content and contemplate over the actual information like you do), and this misinterpretation is fair, it happens to all of us. Few people corrected you in the reply.

But a lot of people instead of reading the article, took the title of the article and your comment as what the article meant, thus fulfilling the entire thing his article mentioned. Speeding through information. Kinda hilarious.

Re: Against 3x Speed

#156
post #141

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is more that these days everything is a video. Even things that should be two to three paragraphs of text or maybe a picture or two.

I agree with this, though it depends on what you're learning and what you already know. For example, I do not care for videos about code. I'm experienced in that domain and I want to get right into the meat of things: scroll to the appropriate paragraph, see the example I'm looking for, and move one. I could see why a beginner would need a slower pace with more "filler" explanation and background information. Videos…

It is just sad when I you search for "how to do X in Linux" you get a video in search results first and only second some article where you can actually copy-paste the commands

Re: Against 3x Speed

#157
I do 2x speed wherever I can.

The benefit I find is I actually have to concentrate to pay attention, rather than at 1x speed some people talk so slowly my mind starts wandering as they slowly come around to actually making their point and before I know it I am replying to emails and ignoring the video.

I generally find it harder to be distracted like that at 2x... Although after years I think I am a bit accustomed so might seek out that 3x extension (although I guess it won't work on our internal recorded sessions at work :( )

Re: Against 3x Speed

#160
post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've noticed that I'm fairly unusual in my generation (late millennial) in that I strongly prefer to consume information through reading compared to listening or watching. My brothers and friends and girlfriend all love stuff like podcasts or casual YouTube watching, but I find that the increased effort needed to arbitrarily change speed or skip around always makes me end up not retaining or enjoying the content I co…

It depends on the type of information, for me. I love podcasts (history, policy, some news) but when I'm trying to research a topic or find instructions on something, or that kind of thing, I also vastly prefer text. Kind of drives me crazy when the most relevant source I can find is a 15 minute youtube video explaining something that could be distilled into a paragraph of text.

I would add for practical skills (including some research!) videos and podcasts seem to offer more feedback. Nobody in a book ever tells me what a flange or spline or baulk ring actually is, nobody in a video does either, but in the latter I get to see it and make my own, usually fit-for-current-purpose, inferences.

Closer personal example: I spent weeks trying to bully a supervised machine learning approach into a reinforcement learning one, because the 800-page reference book I used (that claims to cover all machine learning, and is well regarded!) in no way acknowledges the existence of this sub field. For whatever reason, and across multiple fields, I've never found static text to be good at "here's what you should be looking for", and I don't think it's reasonable to discount that knowledge as being valuable.

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