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Overview of alternative open source front-ends for popular internet platforms

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Re: Overview of alternative open source front-ends for popular internet platforms

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Post by cdrini »

qiqitori wrote: post #15

Nitter.net is so much better -- comically better -- than Twitter's site. I'm on a somewhat slow computer right now, and loading a Twitter user's channel (sorry I can't remember the correct Twitter slang) takes like 3-4 seconds on Nitter, and like 10 seconds on Twitter. And scrolling on Twitter is supper choppy, on Nitter it's just normal. Twitter's frontend code could be a good one for thedailywtf.com.

It's insanely better. I enabled the Twitter theme, and it felt creepy how much smoother it was _while having the same interface_! I wish that I could login/view my feed :( I would 100% switch if I could.

If it's API restrictions, they should create a browser extension! Maybe someday Firefox mobile will allow add-ons again :(

Re: Overview of alternative open source front-ends for popular internet platforms

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Post by afavour »

chii wrote: post #10
noisy_boy wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sad state of affairs. One alternative could be to create a dummy account for this purpose, turn-off every notification, add no friends and use it only for the purpose of accessing pages for businesses (I don't use Facebook at all personally but the way things are going, I may have to resort to such shenanigans).

creating a dummy account might alleviate the immediate issue, but it doesn't really fix the root cause of the problem - which is that the restaurant thinks it's ok to only post on facebook, and assume everyone has access.

It is OK, though. It’s not that they’re assuming everyone has access, it’s that they’ve made the business decision that it isn’t worth going the extra mile to cater to a minority of customers that aren’t on Facebook.

It annoys me too but I’m not blaming my local restaurants for following market forces.

Re: Overview of alternative open source front-ends for popular internet platforms

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Post by andrewflnr »

afavour wrote: post #22
chii wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

creating a dummy account might alleviate the immediate issue, but it doesn't really fix the root cause of the problem - which is that the restaurant thinks it's ok to only post on facebook, and assume everyone has access.

It is OK, though. It’s not that they’re assuming everyone has access, it’s that they’ve made the business decision that it isn’t worth going the extra mile to cater to a minority of customers that aren’t on Facebook. It annoys me too but I’m not blaming my local restaurants for following market forces.

"Made a business decision" is not the same as "it's ok", and it's dangerous to conflate these. I'm not sure where posting on Facebook falls, but for a relatively clear-cut case consider "made a business decision to not bother with wheelchair accessibility".

Re: Overview of alternative open source front-ends for popular internet platforms

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Post by afavour »

andrewflnr wrote: post #24
afavour wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is OK, though. It’s not that they’re assuming everyone has access, it’s that they’ve made the business decision that it isn’t worth going the extra mile to cater to a minority of customers that aren’t on Facebook. It annoys me too but I’m not blaming my local restaurants for following market forces.

"Made a business decision" is not the same as "it's ok", and it's dangerous to conflate these. I'm not sure where posting on Facebook falls, but for a relatively clear-cut case consider "made a business decision to not bother with wheelchair accessibility".

There are laws preventing you from ignoring wheelchair accessibility. As a society we have decided it is important. We’ve done no such thing for keeping information on Facebook only.

Re: Overview of alternative open source front-ends for popular internet platforms

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Post by justsomehnguy »

afavour wrote: post #22
chii wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

creating a dummy account might alleviate the immediate issue, but it doesn't really fix the root cause of the problem - which is that the restaurant thinks it's ok to only post on facebook, and assume everyone has access.

It is OK, though. It’s not that they’re assuming everyone has access, it’s that they’ve made the business decision that it isn’t worth going the extra mile to cater to a minority of customers that aren’t on Facebook. It annoys me too but I’m not blaming my local restaurants for following market forces.

> made the business decision

IF they made the decision. There is more and more people there who doesn't even understand the concept of a website.

To them 'being on the Internet' equals being on Facebook/Instagram.

It is hard to make a decision about something you don't even know.

Re: Overview of alternative open source front-ends for popular internet platforms

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Post by chii »

justsomehnguy wrote: post #26
afavour wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is OK, though. It’s not that they’re assuming everyone has access, it’s that they’ve made the business decision that it isn’t worth going the extra mile to cater to a minority of customers that aren’t on Facebook. It annoys me too but I’m not blaming my local restaurants for following market forces.

> made the business decision IF they made the decision. There is more and more people there who doesn't even understand the concept of a website. To them 'being on the Internet' equals being on Facebook/Instagram. It is hard to make a decision about something you don't even know.

while i would give these businesses the benefit of the doubt, i would also say that the responsibility is on them to know. Ignorance isn't a real defense imho.

It's true that making an independent site to host your updates and info isn't as easy as just posting to facebook/twitter. I understand why a lot of businesses, esp. small ones, don't bother. Each rain drop also don't hold themselves responsible for the flood.

Re: Overview of alternative open source front-ends for popular internet platforms

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Post by daptaq »

boomboomsubban wrote: post #2

How tightly does Facebook lock their stuff down to barely get a mention here? I deactivated my account years ago, and my only interaction is checking things like local restaurants and groups to see their schedules or other such public information and it's hell. Say I want to eat out on Christmas eve. Around 80% of local restaurants will only publicly say if they're open on a Facebook post, and like half of those will…

Have you ever brought this up to the restoraunt owners? I would guess that if they are not some large chain, they listen to direct customer feedback, over statistics and corporate guidelines.
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