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Pfizer’s Covid-19 Pill is 89% Effective in Phase 2/3 Study

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Re: Pfizer’s Covid-19 Pill is 89% Effective in Phase 2/3 Study

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Post by hunterb123 »

warning26 wrote: post #80
hunterb123 wrote: post #68

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You can enable "Show Dead" in your user prefs if you want to see flagged comments. Spoiler alert: they're all conspiracy theorizing about how this _proves_ that the entire pandemic is all a part of Pfizer's master plan for making money.

You didn't summarize the flagged posts I did see correctly, this is exactly why I don't support censoring them.

Even to your summarization, that's up for those reading to decide. I don't blindly trust a single pharma company after the opioid scandal. Conspiracies are not impossible, and if you want to dispel a theory, do it, don't censor it.

Also at a certain point you cannot see flagged comments, even with "show dead" enabled.

Re: Pfizer’s Covid-19 Pill is 89% Effective in Phase 2/3 Study

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Post by desine »

desine wrote: post #86
AshamedCaptain wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh no don't try to throw in "reproducibility crisis" here. The fact that some studies in some areas are hard to reproduce (which is not news to anyone) does not suddenly mean that we should go back to cheap armchair philosophy as the main source of "knowledge". This is the equivalent of saying that the fossil record is slightly incomplete therefore Christian creationism. "Science" in general is one of those things th…

>The reproducibility crisis is real and affects more than "some studies in some areas". >"Peer review" rarely means more than "JSTOR search for something that supports my claim, quick skim for obvious errors, cite and publish" >"Science" is only "accurate by definition" when it's done correctly. Buying scientists is cheaper than buying politicians, in practice.

>Buying scientists is cheaper than buying politicians, in practice.

Heads up I'm not gonna be able to cite a peer reviewed journal on that so you should just [flag] me now <3

Re: Pfizer’s Covid-19 Pill is 89% Effective in Phase 2/3 Study

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Post by jazzyjackson »

javagram wrote: post #55
_-david-_ wrote: post #37

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There are a large number of blacks and young people who are not vaccinated. This is a bipartisan thing.

Actually, political affiliation is the strongest demographic predictor for Covid-19 vaccine refusal. Check the actual stats. Unfortunately a lot of GOP leaning media sources including top rated Fox News opinion hosts have been spreading FUD about the vaccine for a year. People listen to their trusted news hosts and media sources…

fox news is the most popular TV news and has like 1-2 million daily viewers. I could be wrong but I don’t think people are going by what they see on TV.

Re: Pfizer’s Covid-19 Pill is 89% Effective in Phase 2/3 Study

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Post by greyface- »

solarkraft wrote: post #81
hunterb123 wrote: post #68

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A downvote, too, is not meant as a "disagree" button, but for comments hindering a productive discussion. I can assure you almost all of them are flame-bait.

"I think it's ok to use the up and down arrows to express agreement." -pg https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=117171

Re: Pfizer’s Covid-19 Pill is 89% Effective in Phase 2/3 Study

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Post by maxerickson »

throwawayboise wrote: post #60
junon wrote: post #42

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Your own misunderstanding of the difference between SARS-CoV-2 and COVID-19 do not entitle you to assert anything about the subject.

It matters not. The public was lead to believe that the vaccines were highly effective and safe. Now they are realized to be not so effective (against Delta/Omicron) and not so safe (J&J/Janssen recently "de-preferenced" by CDC due to clotting). We are still wearing masks, when we were once told the vaccinated didn't need to mask. Two years later, there is no end in sight. If you want to build trust, don't oversell t…

The vaccines are highly effective and safe.

A low rate of people suffer any significant issues from vaccination, and very few vaccinated people become severely ill. They work great.

If the other vaccines were not available, the J&J vaccine would make sense for most people compared to not taking it.

Re: Pfizer’s Covid-19 Pill is 89% Effective in Phase 2/3 Study

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Post by tim333 »

eli wrote: post #79
whb07 wrote: post #76

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The data was real the first time. The virus got worse.

Presumably this data is against Delta or an earlier variant but by the time it's in use covid will be 99% Omicron. I wonder how that will effect things.

Re: Pfizer’s Covid-19 Pill is 89% Effective in Phase 2/3 Study

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Post by dnautics »

solarkraft wrote: post #73
johnisgood wrote: post #53

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But I am not vaccinated for health reasons. When are we going to start differentiating? Were I not a freelancer, I would have lost my job because I am not vaccinated, for health reasons. It is a pretty shitty thing to do to people.

There's always an exception for people who can't be vaccinated. They're a big reason everyone else needs to be vaccinated, after all.

IIRC Vaccination seems to do a poor job of preventing person-to-person transmission of delta (and likely, even less, omicron). If you are currently getting vaccinated, you should be doing it for selfish reasons, and you should not count on it to protect, say, a vulnerable or unvaccinated person you live with.

Re: Pfizer’s Covid-19 Pill is 89% Effective in Phase 2/3 Study

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Post by maxerickson »

sudosysgen wrote: post #90
maxerickson wrote: post #41

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It's a technical distinction lost on the public. Maybe that's a bad thing, but it is what it is.

I mean, if you're not noticing infection but noticing only the disease, it makes perfect sense to the public.

The public pretty much just thinks of both together as 'sick'.

Re: Pfizer’s Covid-19 Pill is 89% Effective in Phase 2/3 Study

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Post by mlyle »

bhaak wrote: post #46
desine wrote: post #6

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I'm not sure the taxpayers will pay for that if you are unvaccinated. This pill is for "high-risk patients who took the antiviral within three days of symptom onset". The vaccination even seems to be a bit more effective than this pill?

> I'm not sure the taxpayers will pay for that if you are unvaccinated.

Just about no matter what it costs, it's cheaper than you dying in an ICU.

Re: Pfizer’s Covid-19 Pill is 89% Effective in Phase 2/3 Study

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Post by AshamedCaptain »

desine wrote: post #86
AshamedCaptain wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh no don't try to throw in "reproducibility crisis" here. The fact that some studies in some areas are hard to reproduce (which is not news to anyone) does not suddenly mean that we should go back to cheap armchair philosophy as the main source of "knowledge". This is the equivalent of saying that the fossil record is slightly incomplete therefore Christian creationism. "Science" in general is one of those things th…

>The reproducibility crisis is real and affects more than "some studies in some areas". >"Peer review" rarely means more than "JSTOR search for something that supports my claim, quick skim for obvious errors, cite and publish" >"Science" is only "accurate by definition" when it's done correctly. Buying scientists is cheaper than buying politicians, in practice.

And obviously all this means we should fallback to armchair philosophy.

(fyi jstor does not even fully cover one single area of knowledge)

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