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Pfizer’s Covid-19 Pill is 89% Effective in Phase 2/3 Study

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Post by maxerickson »

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jmarbach wrote: post #14

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You are completely wrong -- totally warped by the narrative. Look at the Pfizer press release, Nov 9, 2020 - the first sentence: "Vaccine candidate was found to be more than 90% effective in preventing COVID-19 in participants without evidence of prior SARS-CoV-2 infection in the first interim efficacy analysis" https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-release/press-release-deta...

Maybe I'm misinformed, but as I understood it, COVID-19 is the disease brought upon by SARS-Cov-2 infection. That line on its own doesn't suggest it prevents infection, it suggests it prevents the COVID-19 disease (i.e 90% chance of being left with a asymptomatic infection).

It's a technical distinction lost on the public. Maybe that's a bad thing, but it is what it is.

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Post by junon »

jmarbach wrote: post #14
jjulius wrote: post #13

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You are completely wrong -- totally warped by the narrative. Look at the Pfizer press release, Nov 9, 2020 - the first sentence: "Vaccine candidate was found to be more than 90% effective in preventing COVID-19 in participants without evidence of prior SARS-CoV-2 infection in the first interim efficacy analysis" https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-release/press-release-deta...

Your own misunderstanding of the difference between SARS-CoV-2 and COVID-19 do not entitle you to assert anything about the subject.

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Post by vidoc »

jjulius wrote: post #13
jmarbach wrote: post #12

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You are arguing over semantics. In reality, the Pfizer vax has proven to be less than 10% effective at stopping a future infection.

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> They never claimed it stopped infection

True, but they sure as hell implied it did. For example, this fact check appeared in the search container of google early on: note the use of the double negative in the VERDICT.

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-transmission/fa...

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Post by bhaak »

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I'm not sure the taxpayers will pay for that if you are unvaccinated.

This pill is for "high-risk patients who took the antiviral within three days of symptom onset".

The vaccination even seems to be a bit more effective than this pill?

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Post by ufo »

desine wrote: post #9
ufo wrote: post #7

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Ivermectin acts on glutamate chloride ion channels. It is not a protease inhibitor. And even if it were (which it is not), something that inhibits one protease doesn't work on other proteases. We can't use HIV protease inhibitors to fight covid, for example.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7996102/

"in silico" doesn't mean that is actually real. We are almost getting into 2022 now and there is ample evidence from prospective double-blind studies proving that Ivermectin doesn't work against covid. And here in Brazil we have a pile of corpses showing what happens when the government tries to use innefective drugs as the main answer to the pandemic.

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Post by throwaway2016a »

jmarbach wrote: post #12
xboxnolifes wrote: post #11

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I don't recall a single instance of 100% efficacy claim. It was around 92-97%.

You are arguing over semantics. In reality, the Pfizer vax has proven to be less than 10% effective at stopping a future infection.

The efficacy is pretty well proven to be > 90% at this point. Per your comment where you admit the number was pulled out of thin air:

> Anecdotal. You do not need to be a meteorologist to know when it's raining. Look outside.

I'll raise you this... where I am 100% of ICU cases are unvaccinated. Read that again 100%. And over 85% of hospitalizations. And before you say "see, 15% of them were breakthrough cases," please learn about base rates. 65% of the people here are vaccinated so to have only 15% of the hospital cases be vaccinated is even more conclusive.

Please, get out of your bubble. If you think it is 10%... or even 50%... or even 70% you need to do some serious introspection.

Please, actually "look outside"! Because if you spent more than 10 seconds actually looking outside, the efficacy is obvious.

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Post by nojito »

_-david-_ wrote: post #37
atonse wrote: post #23

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I do agree with the general sentiment of keeping politics out of it. But sadly there do seem to be some pretty strong correlations at a county level across the US. It could also be rural/urban cultural divides but the more obvious one is simply politics.

There are a large number of blacks and young people who are not vaccinated. This is a bipartisan thing.

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