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Re: Someone attached an AirTag to my car while I was in a bar

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No - you buy a burner phone at any convenience store, using cash, pop the sim card out of the phone, and put it into the GPS tracker.

Good to know. We don't have burner phones over here, and can't verify, however I thought their SIM cards were locked so that they couldn't be used on other devices.

Where I live (NL) you don't even need to buy a whole phone, anonymous prepaid sim cards don't require any ID to purchase.

Re: Someone attached an AirTag to my car while I was in a bar

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"Of sexual abuse cases reported to law enforcement, 93% of juvenile victims knew the perpetrator: 59% were acquaintances. 34% were family members. 7% were strangers to the victim. also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acquaintance_rape >this morning while I was asleep I had someone close to me check my car and they found it stuck on the underside of my front passenger wheel well. I wish he took pics before he threw it a…

Trusted figure eliminating evidence of a plot against you while you sleep (and possibly nudging you to not call the police, who knows!) sounds like a villain right out of a detective story, but it would be a very silly move to not clear in advance how AirTags work and whether the victim uses an iPhone (which can be easy even if they are not that close).

Not impossible (e.g., an impulsive boyfriend or familiar admirer with control issues naively wanting to find out where she goes or purposefully scare her as part of larger big-brain ploy), but depending on her car an AirTag-assisted car theft attempt could be more likely: https://www.yrp.ca/en/Modules/News/index.aspx?newsId=167fa5b...

Re: Someone attached an AirTag to my car while I was in a bar

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Couldn't someone just slip a phone in a bag to do the same thing?

Yes, but that’s probably a larger and more expensive device.

I can buy a battery powered GPS tracker with 4G LTE uplink on Amazon for $30. A bit larger than an airtag, considerably smaller than a smartphone.

Re: Someone attached an AirTag to my car while I was in a bar

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This is news just because it's an Apple device being used for something that was already trivially possible. GPS trackers designed to be magnet-attached to a car which report their location via cell signal cost ~$20 on Amazon. You then tend to need to pay for either a SIM card or a subscription to the device maker's service -- bringing you up to about the cost of an AirTag. These are much harder to detect, as you mig…

I am wondering: - Would a GPS tracker placed at this position be able to catch the GPS signal? If I understand it correctly, an airtag communicate via bluetooth and would get the location from a phone in range? - An airtag do not require a SIM card. Are they easily traceable or is it hard to get to the owner?

A GPS tracker in the wheel well would have no problem getting signal, GPS receivers have gotten spookily sensitive in recent years. And that's a genie that won't go back in the bottle.

Re: Someone attached an AirTag to my car while I was in a bar

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While it’s theoretically possible that this happened, I think this particular story was made up. For a number of reasons: 1) How did the stalker know that that’s her car? She said she was on a night out. Unless she went back to her car all the time, he must have seen her arrive in it. 2) Sticking an AirTag to the inside of the front wheel well isn’t easy. There is dirt and grime there and the surfaces aren’t flat. Th…

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Re: Someone attached an AirTag to my car while I was in a bar

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Trivially possible? I wouldn’t know how to use or where to buy a GPS tracker. I’m sure it’s not super hard. But not as easy as an airtag. But now anyone with an iPhone can buy a $25 device and track anyone. I would guess that Airtags are also smaller than gps trackers.

I thought that too. Google GPS tracker and the first result are trackers for about $30. They come with a SIM Card and and a Online Service for $5 so you can track the tracker. Also comes with an alarm if someone removes the tracker. This is really trivial...

But still not as trivial as an Airtag. You need an iPhone and an Airtag. That’s it. No extra service. No waiting non-Prime or non-Apple shipping for a tracker to arrive.

The first results in Google for me are $50 and are about 10-20x the size as an Airtag. Also multiple parts.

Re: Someone attached an AirTag to my car while I was in a bar

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Apple AirTag Linked to Increasing Number of Car Thefts, Canadian Police Report - https://nypost.com/2021/12/07/carjackers-are-using-this-new-...

That was the article where buried in the text it admits that there were 5 cases that police knew about. Just 5. Looks more like clickbait to me. For the price of an airtag I could just use a GPS tracker with LTE uplink, and not worry about Apple being able to tell the police who the tag was activated for.

Re: Someone attached an AirTag to my car while I was in a bar

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Why exactly is it lower effort than a cellular GPS tracker from Amazon? They're around the same size, and roughly the same cost.

When you open a GPS tracker you find a SIM and that's enough to identify the owner in any country that requires an ID to get a SIM. AirTags are anonymous by design AFAIK. Furthermore the owner is spared with the burden of getting a SIM (time and cost), ID or not.

While I'm sure there are countries that require that, you don't have to provide an ID to get a SIM in the United States. You can go buy one off the shelf (with service included) at Walmart for around $10, in cash.

Re: Someone attached an AirTag to my car while I was in a bar

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This is news just because it's an Apple device being used for something that was already trivially possible. GPS trackers designed to be magnet-attached to a car which report their location via cell signal cost ~$20 on Amazon. You then tend to need to pay for either a SIM card or a subscription to the device maker's service -- bringing you up to about the cost of an AirTag. These are much harder to detect, as you mig…

> In fact, this is news we're hearing about because of the steps Apple took to make it harder to use these devices for bad purposes. I've got Android. Where do i see a warning? Ps. No, people with Android will not have a Apple app installed. It's the wrong solution for that problem.

How is it the wrong solution? An app is required for any of this to work/be detected. Either everyone jumps on the same bandwagon (Google joins Apple or something), or you install the app for the bandwagon that exists.

Re: Someone attached an AirTag to my car while I was in a bar

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Can someone just put any random AirTag on someone's car and have it trigger alerts on nearby iphones? Does one have to do something to activate it first? Curious if all one needs to do is get one and stick it on a randos car to cause psychological distress without even pairing with a phone or otherwise registering/activating the thing.

I'm pretty sure it needs to be activated to an Apple account. But seriously, people here way overthink things. If a random sicko wants to cause someone psychological distress there are a million ways that they can unfortunately do so that don't involve elaborate technology.

And if they want to track, that ability was already available, for the same price as an AirTag, and without the annoying habit beeping loudly or notifying the victim that they are being tracked.
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