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Re: Someone attached an AirTag to my car while I was in a bar

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It is indeed an impression problem. Doing this with LoRa for a lower price has been possible for a very long time and you don't even need a large network for that due to the significant range. Basic triangulation built in to friendly software using existing radios and then simply getting closer with a hand-held transceiver isn't exactly hardcore hacking either. And with the low entry cost and non-detectability by pra…

AirTags are trivial to use and have an extensive tracking network in the form of every iDevice. Custom or semi-custom battery powered LoRa trackers have lesser batteryluve, are bulkier and much harder to get and deploy. Basic triangulation is easy-ish, but requires multiple sites or a moving site to work toany degree. And those sites need to hear the tracking beacon.

What I was writing about isn't theory, but is used in the form of pet and wildlife trackers. Networks already exist. Most of the older ones are usable as well using UHF trackers. None of this is new, it's just that 'the bad guys' mostly get caught using bulky SMS-based GPS location transmitters and now AirTags.

Re: Someone attached an AirTag to my car while I was in a bar

#53

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I believe that's where the advice to hand an AirTag to the authorities come from? From here: https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT212227

I’m not convinced this is a priority for police. Air tags seem to be a net negative for all.

Please don't discourage people from seeking assistance from law enforcement when their personal safety is at risk.

Re: Someone attached an AirTag to my car while I was in a bar

#54
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The worst part of this is, if you don’t have an iPhone, you’ll never know if you’re being tracked. Edit: Yes, I know there’s an app. Do you think more than 1% of victims will have it installed?

There is, it's open source and works. I have have this running on my phone in the background and it has alerted me a few times like when my phone was in the locker at the gym and someones airtags was in a locker close to mine.

https://github.com/seemoo-lab/AirGuard

Re: Someone attached an AirTag to my car while I was in a bar

#55

This seems plausible: People at bars are single. Track their vehicle to their house / apt. Later, know when vehicle is not at house (hence no one is home - remember - single person). Rob house.

> Rob house that's not the only possible outcome here

it's not even the worst one i thought of

Re: Someone attached an AirTag to my car while I was in a bar

#56
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There is at least one android app to list nearby airtags. The one I found requires you to manually start a scan though so it doesn't alert to issues like this one. OTOH your own phone won't be used to track the air tag. OTOH half the people around you have an iPhone that will do it for them.

Care to link the one you found? Going through the play store these days is a nightmare of privacy problems and adware so if you already found a good one, that would be nice to mention.

https://www.theverge.com/2021/12/13/22832731/apple-android-a...

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.apple.trac...

This one is first-party from Apple.

Re: Someone attached an AirTag to my car while I was in a bar

#57

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I’m not convinced this is a priority for police. Air tags seem to be a net negative for all.

Please don't discourage people from seeking assistance from law enforcement when their personal safety is at risk.

You may not live in a large American city. It’s a bad place to rely on the cops in my experience.

Re: Someone attached an AirTag to my car while I was in a bar

#58
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The worst part of this is, if you don’t have an iPhone, you’ll never know if you’re being tracked. Edit: Yes, I know there’s an app. Do you think more than 1% of victims will have it installed?

There is, it's open source and works. I have have this running on my phone in the background and it has alerted me a few times like when my phone was in the locker at the gym and someones airtags was in a locker close to mine. https://github.com/seemoo-lab/AirGuard

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Re: Someone attached an AirTag to my car while I was in a bar

#60
> this morning while I was asleep I had someone close to me check my car and they found it stuck on the underside of my front passenger wheel well. I wish he took pics before he threw it away but it looks like this:'

Didn't take pictures?

Didn't leave it where it was and call police?

Didn't happen.

Made up for attention.

Here's more proof it was fake as hell:

> thanks for all the support everyone. Pleading faceSunflower I’m fine and doing okay! Muting that thread, got super overwhelming really quickly and even more weird people in my DMs. Face with rolling eyes I have absolutely nothing to promote but if I have any updates I’ll let you all know!

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