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Lithuania evacuates its embassy in China

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Re: Lithuania evacuates its embassy in China

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riffraff wrote: post #290
synergy20 wrote: post #225

Here is a perspective on China's current aggressiveness: those in power are from the culture-revolution age(1966-1976), which means they did not get good education(if anything at all). Most of them are not even middle-school graduates. Their youth time are filled with beating those well educated ones based on ideologies accusations. Xi himself did not even finish middle school, his professional skill is the worst com…

Wikipedia mentions Xi studied chemical engineering at the University.

Don't believe that, he got special treatment and he does not understand a thing while studying there, that department in that university was full of people like him(youth who had powerful parents need a diploma quick after culture-revolution gap) for political assignments. Xi himself even claimed he got a PhD degree for that matter, it's so embarrassing that he eventually pulled that claim off after internet was full of his PhD jokes a few years back.

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Post by whimsicalism »

riffraff wrote: post #279
rayiner wrote: post #246

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Who is China bullying except it’s own people?

China won't allow airlines to say they fly to Taiwan. Western media frequently defer to PRC rules (the latest one: Top Gun sequel removing the taiwanese flag). John Cena had to publicly apologize because he referred to Taiwan as a country. Chinese vessels regularly violate territorial waters, and there is an ongoing spat with India around their borders. The PRC is bullying the whole planet, and people are letting the…

> Chinese vessels regularly violate territorial waters, and there is an ongoing spat with India around their borders.

If you are talking about India's spat with China in terms of territorial waters, I think the general consensus is that India is in excess of international law with its claims and China is conducting legal freedom of navigation operations just like the US does.

The SCS is an entirely different issue, where both China and Taiwan have made territorial claims that are largely illegal under international law.

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Post by iszomer »

Aeolun wrote: post #206
motiejus wrote: post #200

I am Lithuanian; Lithuania Taiwan PRC conflict is frequently a topic of discussion these days among my peers. My position, shared by a few others, is that this is the next best thing that happened in Lithuania after leaving USSR: the first being joining NATO and EU in 2004. Everyone in the world can (and almost everyone do) endorse PRC. "You won't get fired for picking IBM/Oracle/PRC". While very few countries have t…

Even if you lose all business with China, in the long term that is better. It’s disturbing I cannot buy goods that are not (at least partially) made in China.

Best observed while grocery shopping in chinatowns or dense Asian marketplaces. I'd say 95% of canned and packaged products stocked are imports from China.

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Post by whimsicalism »

eloisius wrote: post #299
rayiner wrote: post #246

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Who is China bullying except it’s own people?

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Calling disproportionate imprisonment (and racist imprisonment by ethnicity) "genocide" is genocide-trivialization, in my view.

It wasn't a "genocide" when we imprisoned 1 in 3 black people in this country, even though it was pretty awful.

The Holocaust was a genocide.

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Post by Aunche »

yeetman21 wrote: post #121

My take on the whole China issue is this: no country actually cares about humans rights or any of that stuff but only about their national self interests and that most people do not actually care about humans rights, but only about their own personal self interests. China is a rising power in the world and wants to at least be the primary power in its region (maybe the world, who knows), and the USA as the primary po…

>Nobody, except the misled population (who are being propagandized) or extremely dim-witted subsets of elites (who are doing the propaganda, and go high of their own supply so to say) actually care about these issues.

IMO, this is a much bigger problem for Western nations. They want to pressure Hollywood and the NBA to take a stand against China, but that is exactly what China wants. They don't get any economic value from importing entertainment, so they would much rather that money circulate domestically. This is exactly what happened in with H&M and Nike when they started to look into Xinjiang forced labor. China had an excuse to encourage a consumer boycott, but they happily continued to manufacture for them, widening our trade deficit.

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Post by mads »

picture wrote: post #300
deusum wrote: post #247

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I couldn't imagine country run by a middle school bully. Now I can.

As someone who have spent 13 or so years of their life in China, I absolutely agree with this perspective. The culture of modern China seem to support a strangely "macho" image particularly for men: it's acceptable and maybe even encouraged, for men to be overtaken by rage, and thrash and kick around while yelling things. [1] It looks like this mentality is reflected by the politics of china as a whole. [1]: This is…

This is also my experience. Except I have seen it a lot with females also. Maybe because my family in law is Chinese I am more exposed to it.

China sure has a lot of empty very loud barrels.

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Post by neom »

javajosh wrote: post #297
rayiner wrote: post #246

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Who is China bullying except it’s own people?

>Who is China bullying except it’s own people? Hollywood - see John Cena's obsequious display. Australia ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australia%E2%80%93China_relati... ). Right now, Hong Kong, above all.

Until recently, Canada: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detention_of_Michael_Spavor_an...

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Post by synergy20 »

k_sze wrote: post #309
synergy20 wrote: post #225

Here is a perspective on China's current aggressiveness: those in power are from the culture-revolution age(1966-1976), which means they did not get good education(if anything at all). Most of them are not even middle-school graduates. Their youth time are filled with beating those well educated ones based on ideologies accusations. Xi himself did not even finish middle school, his professional skill is the worst com…

Stop spreading nonsense. Xi Jinping studied chemical engineering. Zhu Rongji studied electrical engineering.

Zhu took the tests and get admitted, like the rest of his peers(Jiang, Hu, Wen, Li,etc) they're all true graduates from the best universities in China then, which explains why China made leaps and bounds under their leadership.

Xi is the only exception among them. Xi got in college without _any_ tests, purely because he has a powerful father then. It's said he could not understand a thing taught and there is no way he could graduate(or admitted). Indeed it's unimaginable for a 6th grader to take calculus in the top universities all of a sudden.

Xi even said he has a PhD degree, it's so laughable he had to remove that claim himself.

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