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Lithuania evacuates its embassy in China

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Re: Lithuania evacuates its embassy in China

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Post by cesis »

geff82 wrote: post #260
motiejus wrote: post #200

I am Lithuanian; Lithuania Taiwan PRC conflict is frequently a topic of discussion these days among my peers. My position, shared by a few others, is that this is the next best thing that happened in Lithuania after leaving USSR: the first being joining NATO and EU in 2004. Everyone in the world can (and almost everyone do) endorse PRC. "You won't get fired for picking IBM/Oracle/PRC". While very few countries have t…

What interesting software or locally producing electronics companies are there in Lithuania? I will by something from them instantly.

http://silelis.com projectors and http://snaige.lt refrigerators are the first ones that come to mind.

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Post by calcifer »

FooBarWidget wrote: post #222
petilon wrote: post #214

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> unification is Chinese core value Is warring with all neighbors a core value too? Chinese government, through censorship, controls the minds of the Chinese people. The government needs to update the core values.

My point is that whether the west thinks the Chinese ought to think that way, is not very important. People can debate that all day long, but at the end of the day the Chinese do think that way, and they are willing to fight for it. This has strategical implications. Do we want to grandstand or do we want to actually solve a problem? If we want to grandstand at all cost, then we have to wage war with China and force…

> If we want to grandstand at all cost, then we have to wage war with China and force them into submission.

Who is we and they? Based on your Twitter profile, you're Chinese and your views seem perfectly aligned with the official CCP position.

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Post by oseityphelysiol »

geff82 wrote: post #260
motiejus wrote: post #200

I am Lithuanian; Lithuania Taiwan PRC conflict is frequently a topic of discussion these days among my peers. My position, shared by a few others, is that this is the next best thing that happened in Lithuania after leaving USSR: the first being joining NATO and EU in 2004. Everyone in the world can (and almost everyone do) endorse PRC. "You won't get fired for picking IBM/Oracle/PRC". While very few countries have t…

What interesting software or locally producing electronics companies are there in Lithuania? I will by something from them instantly.

Fun fact, Ubiquiti started here (it’s not a Lithuanian company though). Another big one that’s founded and manufactures all it’s stuff in Lithuania is Teltonika. They make telecommunications equipment (mostly LTE based wireless modems).

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Post by bettysdiagnose »

Diesel555 wrote: post #245
ChemSpider wrote: post #158

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You post really shows the power and danger of nationalism. You sound like Germany 1938.

> You sound like Germany 1938. The author was just pointing out China's incentives. Any negotiator, a person analyzing international relation theory, or any policy maker must do this. He doesn't sound like Germany 1938. He sounds like a person trying to analyze a power dynamic. The Congressional Research Service tries to boil down complicated issues for Congressional members in public, short reports. Here is the one…

No that person does genuinely sound creepily jingoistic and chauvinistic about it all.

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Post by mistrial9 »

rayiner wrote: post #246
Pmop wrote: post #218

> packages(/containers) from PRC are delayed or cancelled, invoices are not being paid, we are losing business there I think the whole western world should stop playing games with the bully state that is PRC.

Who is China bullying except it’s own people?

Tibetan people and culture

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Post by mantas »

sudosysgen wrote: post #142
ekianjo wrote: post #41

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> Which is more than what the ostensibly anti-fascist USSR did. The funniest part is that when the USSR started the invade the other half of Poland right after Germany started, none of the allies declared war on the USSR while they had a protection treaty with Poland in the first place.

I mean, of course. The alternative was that Germany takes all of Poland and gets to be more agressive against the allies. The Soviets taking half of Poland was a massive benefit for the allies.

Katyn or Rainiai or 1941 Deportations was a benefit to Allie’s too I guess :)

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Post by bettysdiagnose »

LatteLazy wrote: post #253
thesuperbigfrog wrote: post #216

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>> China could take Taiwan and I don't think anyone would stop them. I am inclined to believe that it would look similar to Iraq invading Kuwait, only 100000 times bigger and bloodier. I think the US, UK, Australia, Japan, and many EU nations would strongly disapprove and take military action.

None of us know exactly what different leaders are planning so you may well be right. I do wonder though: if that is the USs plan, why not say so? The US has formal alliances with NATO, Japan etc. They're public, because making them public dissuades the chance of an attack. If you're going to risk getting into a war, why not minimise the risk at no cost by being upfront about it? Instead the US maintains a position o…

Strategic ambiguity makes sense because they don't want to encourage Taiwan to declare independence by saying they'll 100% back them to the end. Blank cheques are great ways to start wars.

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Post by manuelabeledo »

pphysch wrote: post #241

1. Beijing rejects being merely the "workshop" of the unipolar world, embraces sovereignty (GFW), high quality development (HSR), technological innovation (4IR), including in the military space (space, cyber, hypersonics). Oh and BRI. 2. Washington doesn't like that because it will displace the unipolar moment. USA has been in economic decline for half a century while PRC has been on a dramatic rise. Washington tries…

Both China and the US are trying to protect their interests, and both are aggressors. Making it look like this is some sort of US initiated warfare is insanely simplistic, and mostly wrong.

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Post by riffraff »

synergy20 wrote: post #225

Here is a perspective on China's current aggressiveness: those in power are from the culture-revolution age(1966-1976), which means they did not get good education(if anything at all). Most of them are not even middle-school graduates. Their youth time are filled with beating those well educated ones based on ideologies accusations. Xi himself did not even finish middle school, his professional skill is the worst com…

Wikipedia mentions Xi studied chemical engineering at the University.
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