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> any private unicorn or public tech company (the ones that get media coverage) Can you give some example companies?
Amazon, Microsoft, Google, etc.
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Ask HN: Strategies to land fully remote $250k+ job
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Re: Ask HN: Strategies to land fully remote $250k+ job
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I'm "this other guy" you reference above. For what it's worth, even if he were working only 2 jobs rather than 3, that would have still broken our ability to trust him with any meaningful work. From an HR perspective, if someone lies about having a 2nd job, what else are the capable of lying about? > It is not wrong to work two jobs. 2 jobs vs. 3 jobs doesn't make much of a difference. It is wrong to work 2 jobs if y…
Yeah, I am not doubting you did the right job firing this guy. But you brought the wrong anecdote to this debate. The original idea was about a 2nd job. Thats all. You are saying that shows bad reputation and moral compass and then trying to shoe horn in the idea that people with multiple jobs are liars and poor performers. Have you ever had to work two jobs? As someone that did and whose parents also did, I dont equ…
Were you and your parents working 2 jobs on non-conflicting schedules?
I think is perfectly acceptable to work 6-2pm and 2pm-8pm for 2 employers.
But I don’t think it’s ethical to work 2 jobs where the hours are overlapping not on a staggered schedule.
> Have you ever had to work two jobs
Yes, when starting my startup. I woke up at 5am, worked until 9am on my startup, went to my day job and worked a full 8 hours, then came home and worked 6-10pm on the startup. After a couple weeks doing this, I let the CEO of my day job know, and requested they sign a contract saying anything I develop outside of regular business hours is owned by me and not my day job. They approved and signed the agreement. I left to build the startup full time 9 months later.
The key here is just being honest and transparent. You can work 2 jobs, that alone isn’t the problem, the problem is working 2 jobs and going to great lengths hiding it from your employers, calling out sick for fake doctor appointments, fabricating stories as to why you aren’t getting your work done, claiming you have fake medical conditions that prevent you from joining meetings.
The sad part is a few bad apples will ruin it for the rest of us. Remote is easy to abuse. The more it’s abused, the less likely companies are to continue embracing WFH post-COVID. The more it’s abused, the more companies will be compelled to do things like install remote monitoring software, etc.
> the classes we each grew up in
Not that it’s relevant, but I grew up with parents who wouldn’t even pay for a $25/mo gym membership, and told me to go find a job. Same with buying my first car as a teenager and paying gas/insurance. Thank god I dropped out of private college after 3 semesters, all of my loans were in my name, no help from the parents.
Re: Ask HN: Strategies to land fully remote $250k+ job
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Fair enough. Just of curiosity, would you have fired him if his performance hadn't suffered?
If I found out about it, yes, he'd be gone immediately even if he were our #1 engineer. It's impossible to trust someone with AWS production keys and access to customer data when they lie to you about something as simple as who they work for. People secretly working multiple jobs are looking for an easy way to make a lot of money. If it's within their ability to secretly work 2 jobs, is it also in their ability to do…
But there's no legal issue with working multiple jobs in the US.
Most employment agreements pay for 40 hours per week.
What employees do with the rest of their time is none of the employer's business.
They could be spending all that time driving an Uber, developing an open-source project, do contract/consultant work for a friend's startup, or just play video games.
As long as the work is getting done, the employer has no recourse unless it gets outright stipulated in the actual contract.
Your conflating of "working two software engineering jobs" and "stealing company data and selling it" doesn't make logical sense.
Working multiple jobs is not an easy way to make a lot of money. It takes time and effort.
Measuring employee productivity over "hours in chair" is the way to go.
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Getting $100k sticker price worth of stocks per year is worth about $100k a year. If stocks go up they are worth more, otherwise less. On average they will be worth more than cash, and for a big company it is rare for them to go down a lot, so I'd say that getting the $100k worth of stocks a year is at least as good as just getting the cash. Edit: Not sure why people think otherwise. Maybe they are used to companies…
> at least as good as getting cash This claim is patently false. If you receive $100k in cash, you can immediately exchange that to $100k in public company stock. The opposite is not true (if you receive stock with a vesting period, you cannot immediately exchange it to cash). Therefore, getting cash is at least as good as getting public company stock, not the other way around.
At least at Google, you get vested shares every month, and you start receiving them in about the 3rd month.
You can also have your broker automatically sell.
It is pretty close to cash.
Re: Ask HN: Strategies to land fully remote $250k+ job
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People like him are a reason why employers have to be more careful when hiring remote.
And a reason why it's going to be hard to maintain that remote paradise developers are hoping. Laws are generally not written for the average, decent person, but to stop the degenerates who would try to murder, destroy, etc, and wouldn't be punished otherwise. People cheat on remote tests and interviews, for example.
We just need to switch to measuring output.
The industry is full of engineers working 9-5 then going home and spending 4 hours on a side-hustle or open-source project (plus another 10 hours on Saturday/Sunday).
Those people can hold down two 40 hour a week software engineering positions. Timezone shifted, yes, but they can get their work done.
Re: Ask HN: Strategies to land fully remote $250k+ job
#256Leverage. If your work improves the productivity of 100+ other people, you're surely worth the price. If your work saves $500k+ in annual costs, you're surely worth the price. If hiring you cripples key competitors, you're surely worth the price. If you can enable new revenues streams through knowledge that only you have, you're surely worth the price. If hiring you does not increase productivity, reduce costs, fend…
> if you're outside of the US, set up a local LLC so that US-based companies can treat you like an independent contracting business. That'll make it much easier to hire you across borders. And at that price, you can surely afford the $1000 annually for a tax advisor retainer. In my experience you shouldn't need to do this. In fact, I suspect doing this creates both a taxation and legal nightmare. You should have a re…
If you are providing services online which programming is while being a non resident alien through your LLC you are owning 0% taxes to the USA. There are nuances and you should check with proper tax advisors, but that is how it should work.
Re: Ask HN: Strategies to land fully remote $250k+ job
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> Write 2 technical articles. How do you monetize technical articles at the rate of $1k / article ? Most firms wont pay that much.
The technical articles can serve as highly effective ads to lure your potential customers. The kind of technical writing that will leave no doubt in the minds of your readers that you demonstrate deep expertise in the technologies you are an expert in. Here's an example https://burke.services/segment.html taken from https://burke.services/
This is generally true of writing in tech whether articles or books. You can usually make more as a side effect (or as part of a salaried position) writing than you ever will with someone paying you directly.
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> EDIT: And if you're outside of the US, set up a local LLC so that US-based companies can treat you like an independent contracting business. By local, do you mean a US-based company (eg delaware), or local to where you are?
I believe he do mean a US LLC, most defaults to Delaware or Nevada. It has become much easier for NON-US residents to form such entities these days. Doola (formerly StartPack, a YC Company) is a good option. Not affiliated with Doola but the founder is a nice guy. https://www.doola.com
I formed an LLC for 350$ through a service, online. Yearly I pay additional 190$ for maintenance and address.
edit: They also helped me open a Mercury bank account
Re: Ask HN: Strategies to land fully remote $250k+ job
#259Earlier quoted context omitted.
I believe he do mean a US LLC, most defaults to Delaware or Nevada. It has become much easier for NON-US residents to form such entities these days. Doola (formerly StartPack, a YC Company) is a good option. Not affiliated with Doola but the founder is a nice guy. https://www.doola.com
wow $200/mo recurring fee.. and they don't do your taxes? operating a compliant LLC isn't that complicated. I'd be curious to hear what they're doing that is worth $2500/yr.
I presume they're charging for knowing what to do & how to do it correctly, not just for the time spent doing it.
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No one is stopping the buyers who can wait a day or two from placing limit orders. If the HFT firms are earning profits, it is because someone wants to pay them for the liquidity.
Low latency trading is so crucial to the economy that the market mostly shuts down at 4pm every day and takes weekends and holidays, adding 2^47 nanosecond delays every week without much outcry. And whoever wins by 20ns gets rewarded the same as the previous guy who was winning by 21ns. The magnitude of latency isn't rewarded, just coming in first, so more and is spent on less an less absolute improvements, none of w…
> The magnitude of latency isn't rewarded, just coming in first, so more and is spent on less an less absolute improvements, none of which have been relevant to human reaction times for decades.
So why are the HFT firms earning profits? There is no law that says people are obligated to do business with them. There is no law that says people have to buy at the prices HFT firms are selling at and sell at the prices HFT firms are buying at.