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Ask HN: Have you accepted the TOS that give FB access to your WhatsApp data?

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Re: Ask HN: Have you accepted the TOS that give FB access to your WhatsApp data?

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Which I did.

Wise choice. I still have family and some friends there, but at some point ..

I moved everyone to Signal, I just keep WhatsApp to inform the lone straggler that will contact me of the move.

Re: Ask HN: Have you accepted the TOS that give FB access to your WhatsApp data?

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We have a moral obligation to stop using facebook products. Ask yourself where do you draw the line? If you don’t think facebook has crossed it, then you don’t know enough about facebook.

That line of thinking would turn us all into the unabomber. Not that that would be a bad thing per se, obviously…

Re: Ask HN: Have you accepted the TOS that give FB access to your WhatsApp data?

#63

We have a moral obligation to stop using facebook products. Ask yourself where do you draw the line? If you don’t think facebook has crossed it, then you don’t know enough about facebook.

What have they done apart from give me a free product?

Re: Ask HN: Have you accepted the TOS that give FB access to your WhatsApp data?

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post #63

We have a moral obligation to stop using facebook products. Ask yourself where do you draw the line? If you don’t think facebook has crossed it, then you don’t know enough about facebook.

What have they done apart from give me a free product?

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Re: Ask HN: Have you accepted the TOS that give FB access to your WhatsApp data?

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Never accepted it. Moved to Signal. Didn't install WhatsApp when I upgraded my phone a few months ago. "unfriended" absolutely everyone on Facebook and manually destroyed all my Facebook activities going back to the creation of my account there. Absolutely all of it. The more difficult the process became, the more I realized how coercive they were in welding you into their network. I maintain an empty shell of an acc…

Did the same. No longer on any part of Facebook offerings and no apps installed. Banned from my home network too. The only thing left is an empty WhatsApp account with a status telling people to find me on Signal.

Re: Ask HN: Have you accepted the TOS that give FB access to your WhatsApp data?

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post #62

We have a moral obligation to stop using facebook products. Ask yourself where do you draw the line? If you don’t think facebook has crossed it, then you don’t know enough about facebook.

That line of thinking would turn us all into the unabomber. Not that that would be a bad thing per se, obviously…

It would be bad.

Re: Ask HN: Have you accepted the TOS that give FB access to your WhatsApp data?

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post #60

Nope, I'm still stubbornly dismissing it every time it appears! It's been several months now, I think, and AFAIK nothing bad has happened as a result.

yes, nothing bad happened for me neither. Everything seems to work as expected.

Or maybe, everyone that accepted in the meantime has received a brand new Meta VR headset maybe :D?

Re: Ask HN: Have you accepted the TOS that give FB access to your WhatsApp data?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure outside Europe, but here last time I checked it basically said that whenever you talk with a business account you are basically talking with Facebook, otherwise nothing else changes. Still will be nice to have another opinion.

So it's like saying "Everything that you say to XYZ business we can listen in on"? Would we accept that from our phone companies? Does the term "business" include governments as well?

Yes we would. Since regular phone calls aren't encrypted, not to speak of E2EE, phone companies can listen on all calls.

Of course I suspect Meta actually will listen on business calls while traditional phone companies will most likely only do so after a court order, but we put the bar much higher with digital services compared to regular phone calls.

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