Yes, because the update doesn't actually substantially affect my privacy. YMMV.
Ask HN: Have you accepted the TOS that give FB access to your WhatsApp data?
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Re: Ask HN: Have you accepted the TOS that give FB access to your WhatsApp data?
#42I never had either in the first place.
Re: Ask HN: Have you accepted the TOS that give FB access to your WhatsApp data?
#43I didn’t all this while, but just yesterday when my toddler was playing with my phone, the pop up opened and it got clicked as my toddler was repeatedly beating on the screen. I guess this was their intention all along by showing repeated pop up windows.
I wonder if you could contact support and explain the situation. They can't ignore the fact that the agreement isn't valid if you weren't the one who clicked the button... right?
Re: Ask HN: Have you accepted the TOS that give FB access to your WhatsApp data?
#44Same, I always nope away from that screen. I wonder how long it will keep going.
Re: Ask HN: Have you accepted the TOS that give FB access to your WhatsApp data?
#45I'm just not using Facebook or Whatsapp. Much easier that way :)
Also, I have found that the only people who insist on using it and aren't willing to contact me through other means are exactly the people where I was mostly keeping in touch because of social obligations, and not because I actually enjoy talking to them.
Re: Ask HN: Have you accepted the TOS that give FB access to your WhatsApp data?
#46Ditched Whatsapp the moment it was bought by Facebook.
Yeah, burned it in lieu of Signal immediately. Was shocked how many bright well-read people I know didn't care enough to switch after I presented them with the news.
Most people don't care. In all fairness my beef with Facebook is their inability to manage user data in addition to their empire of community driven misinformation empire. With some slightly above average googling skills you can find a ton of my personal data. It's more of a principle thing here. But I agree, signal ftw.
Re: Ask HN: Have you accepted the TOS that give FB access to your WhatsApp data?
#47I straight up deleted my WhatsApp and Facebook accounts when they announced those plans. Thankfully I was mostly able to move everyone I care about from WhatsApp to Signal. It's been smooth sailing ever since, and I'm step further from having a tech giant control my life.
Re: Ask HN: Have you accepted the TOS that give FB access to your WhatsApp data?
#48Never accepted it. Moved to Signal. Didn't install WhatsApp when I upgraded my phone a few months ago. "unfriended" absolutely everyone on Facebook and manually destroyed all my Facebook activities going back to the creation of my account there. Absolutely all of it. The more difficult the process became, the more I realized how coercive they were in welding you into their network. I maintain an empty shell of an account filled with "creative" metadata due to some public groups and clubs that do not have the resources to manage their own presence online.
Suffice to say I did not respond well to the TOS change.
Re: Ask HN: Have you accepted the TOS that give FB access to your WhatsApp data?
#49Can someone give me a simple non-cynical explanation on what the update in terms is about? From my understanding, it only pertains to communications with businesses and give them some Facbeook tools to manage their communications with customers.
A possibility that I can see is simply that they want to add a bot API which is just a simple rest API and not E2E encrypted. And if they remove the E2EE that means FB will be able to read all messages for businesses using their bot API.
Correct me if I am wrong but my understanding is that to run a WhatsApp bot you currently basically need to run a version of the whole app.
No idea if my theory is correct but if it is I wonder why they won't just provide a good library which implrments their protocol, E2E encryption and everything.
Re: Ask HN: Have you accepted the TOS that give FB access to your WhatsApp data?
#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah, burned it in lieu of Signal immediately. Was shocked how many bright well-read people I know didn't care enough to switch after I presented them with the news.
Most people don't care. In all fairness my beef with Facebook is their inability to manage user data in addition to their empire of community driven misinformation empire. With some slightly above average googling skills you can find a ton of my personal data. It's more of a principle thing here. But I agree, signal ftw.
> community driven misinformation empire.
What do you mean by this?