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Group of monkeys kill over 250 dogs for 'revenge' in Indian town

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Re: Group of monkeys kill over 250 dogs for 'revenge' in Indian town

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All wild animals are stronger than they look. Humans are comparatively weak.. most of us can’t fight a deer. Monkeys are intelligent. They are aware of leverage and potential danger. They jump on people, chase, scratch and bite them

I can't fight a pet dog that's 2/3 of my weight.

You could if you trained for it. You would probably be maimed after, though. That said these monkeys are more like 1/10th your weight

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As a general rule that’s true but useless. Humans are relatively large animals that most creatures don’t want to mess with. But a hippo for example isn’t discouraged by this. Also the deadliest North American wildlife is the deer almost entirely because they’re jumping in front of cars.

> Also the deadliest North American wildlife is the deer Actually, the deadliest North American wildlife is the mosquito.

Personally, I consider Mexico, Canada, and most of America as North America with the Caribbean, and Central America being separated.

I wouldn’t call Malaria etc wildlife, mosquito’s on their own are harmless.

Re: Group of monkeys kill over 250 dogs for 'revenge' in Indian town

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We are not stronger, we have more stamina. There is a difference

We both are stronger and have more stamina than macaques. The biggest male adult macaques are 18kg. That’s probably more that the average adult can raise with one arm but not by much and I insist on average. That’s nothing exceptional for someone in shape. Considering the weight and power in a human leg, a swift kick would seriously harm and probably kill an average macaque. The issue is not strength here.

The average adult can't lift 18kg with one arm, even with improper posture? That's pretty sad if true.

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That's a silly way to think about it, strength just gives you more tools that you can work with if you're intelligent. If you aren't strong enough to rip eyeballs from sockets, how does being intelligent enough to know you can do that help you?

> strength just gives you more tools... I believe the opposite is true. If I'm smart, I will use your strengths against you.

"Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth." (c) Iron Mike

Re: Group of monkeys kill over 250 dogs for 'revenge' in Indian town

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Chimp muscles are stronger than ours but we are often stronger than them in absolute terms because we are bigger (more muscle mass).

We are not stronger than chimps. Our arms certainly aren't.

> This result matches well with the few tests that have been done, which suggest that when it comes to pulling and jumping, chimps are about 1.5 times as strong as humans relative to their body mass. But because they are lighter than the average person, humans can actually outperform them in absolute terms, say O’Neill.

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2138714-chimps-are-not-...

Re: Group of monkeys kill over 250 dogs for 'revenge' in Indian town

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These monkeys are not fatally dangerous if that's what GP is saying. But they cause heavy and serious nuisance. Where I live, these monkeys invade gradens, agricultural fields, house rooftops at least 4-5 times a month. The locals drop anything they do, and chase away these monkeys. When chased by an adult male human, these monkeys don't fight back and are easily frightened. They don't mess with adult males or groups…

> An adult male cannot physically take on a monkey. It is impossible. Still they don't attack. Are you positive? A chimpanzee: yes. A guerilla: indubitable. But a monkey? They seem like medium-sized dogs, that can move around quicker and more freely. They'll bite out your flesh, and perhaps maim you to a semi-serious degree (including infection), but I cannot fathom a monkey seriously killing a grown adult male human…

> But a monkey?

Oh boy never test this out. They will attack violently and will not spare you. If they have enough numbers or have the pack leader(usually the one with the biggest balls) close by then they will retaliate. I'm from south India and I have seen a lot of grown up men get roughed up by monkeys

Re: Group of monkeys kill over 250 dogs for 'revenge' in Indian town

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> strength just gives you more tools... I believe the opposite is true. If I'm smart, I will use your strengths against you.

I am not sure how you reverse body slam someone.

It's called a suplex

Re: Group of monkeys kill over 250 dogs for 'revenge' in Indian town

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> Langoor monkeys are a fearsome force in India and not to be messed with. I thought langoors were more friendly towards humans compared to macaques?

I would expect most animals that still exist to at the very least not be a major threat to humans - because if they are, they tend to cease to exist.

As a side note, I've read that polar bears are one of the most fearless animal towards humans because they had so little interactions with us.

Re: Group of monkeys kill over 250 dogs for 'revenge' in Indian town

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> An adult male cannot physically take on a monkey. It is impossible. Still they don't attack. Are you positive? A chimpanzee: yes. A guerilla: indubitable. But a monkey? They seem like medium-sized dogs, that can move around quicker and more freely. They'll bite out your flesh, and perhaps maim you to a semi-serious degree (including infection), but I cannot fathom a monkey seriously killing a grown adult male human…

> But a monkey? Oh boy never test this out. They will attack violently and will not spare you. If they have enough numbers or have the pack leader(usually the one with the biggest balls) close by then they will retaliate. I'm from south India and I have seen a lot of grown up men get roughed up by monkeys

"roughed up" sounds like getting a beating. but I'd assume they rip your face off and stuff. care to elaborate?

Re: Group of monkeys kill over 250 dogs for 'revenge' in Indian town

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post #203

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These monkeys are not fatally dangerous if that's what GP is saying. But they cause heavy and serious nuisance. Where I live, these monkeys invade gradens, agricultural fields, house rooftops at least 4-5 times a month. The locals drop anything they do, and chase away these monkeys. When chased by an adult male human, these monkeys don't fight back and are easily frightened. They don't mess with adult males or groups…

> An adult male cannot physically take on a monkey. It is impossible. Still they don't attack. Are you positive? A chimpanzee: yes. A guerilla: indubitable. But a monkey? They seem like medium-sized dogs, that can move around quicker and more freely. They'll bite out your flesh, and perhaps maim you to a semi-serious degree (including infection), but I cannot fathom a monkey seriously killing a grown adult male human…

A Macaque, maybe 15 kg in weight, has the aggression claws and muscle to take on any non-beefy human and win, not doubt about that.
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