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Re: Ancient Spartans didn’t kill ‘weak’ babies, new study argues

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I don't have any such settings enabled, and I saw his comment...as well as all his other comments.

This is what I see for the majority of their comments and history. Perhaps you mis-clicked and viewed another user's post history. https://imgur.com/l1xQHLn.png https://imgur.com/Wz4Mpw0.png https://imgur.com/IiIf1cR.png https://imgur.com/n8oVKYe.png https://imgur.com/TOmFbwJ.png https://imgur.com/YOLAxFl.png https://imgur.com/TW8hz8D.png

Those screenshots are empty. Still waiting for any kind of evidence that that user was "shadowbanned" as you say.

Re: Ancient Spartans didn’t kill ‘weak’ babies, new study argues

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Hollywood is the propaganda machine first i.e., a movie may be not especially entertaining but it must conform.

There’s plenty of incentives to conform, but no actual requirements. For example the DoD subsidizes war movies it agrees with. When the goal is to make money, that’s hard to turn down.

The propaganda goes far far beyond explicit DoD subsidies.

Re: Ancient Spartans didn’t kill ‘weak’ babies, new study argues

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Just a head's up, it appears your account may be shadow banned, most of your comments cannot be seen unless someone vouches for them. To respond to your comment, I think sometimes that the skills of debate are fading from society. Often it is not the subject matter of what is being disputed, but the manner in which it is presented, or the person/ideology espousing it.

Not shadowbanned—we told them we were banning them and why: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16118062 - as we usually do, when an account has some history on HN. Please don't take threads off topic like that. If you think an account shouldn't be banned, you're welcome to let us know at hn@ycombinator.com. Edit: you've been doing this repeatedly. That's not cool. Please don't do it again. https://news.ycombinator.…

Hey Dan

Pretty surprising and sad that you would ban me for a comment like that. Reading it back three years later I’m not wildly proud about it but I don’t think it’s ban worthy.

But I want to push back against the idea that this is not a shadow ban. I see now that you replied to my comment to let me know. But there’s no notification mechanism on HN for comment replies! So I didn’t see it until just now.

A ban mechanism that eventuates in the banned user logging on and participating for 3 years before realizing no one can see their comments is a shadow ban! If you wanted it to be clear there should be some messaging besides a comment reply. Just my two cents

Re: Ancient Spartans didn’t kill ‘weak’ babies, new study argues

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Not shadowbanned—we told them we were banning them and why: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16118062 - as we usually do, when an account has some history on HN. Please don't take threads off topic like that. If you think an account shouldn't be banned, you're welcome to let us know at hn@ycombinator.com. Edit: you've been doing this repeatedly. That's not cool. Please don't do it again. https://news.ycombinator.…

Hey Dan Pretty surprising and sad that you would ban me for a comment like that. Reading it back three years later I’m not wildly proud about it but I don’t think it’s ban worthy. But I want to push back against the idea that this is not a shadow ban. I see now that you replied to my comment to let me know. But there’s no notification mechanism on HN for comment replies! So I didn’t see it until just now. A ban mecha…

First of all, I looked at your recent account history and it seems fine, so I've unbanned you. I'm sorry you stayed banned for such a long time, even while posting comments that were within the site guidelines (well, mostly within the site guidelines). We always unban such accounts when we see them, but we don't always see them. Sometimes users email hn@ycombinator.com to let us know about a username in this category, and we always look and are happy to unban if the account no longer shows signs of posting abusively.

> Pretty surprising and sad that you would ban me for a comment like that. Reading it back three years later I’m not wildly proud about it but I don’t think it’s ban worthy.

It's clear from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16118062 that I didn't ban you for just one comment. It says: "We've banned this account for repeatedly violating the HN guidelines with uncivil personal attacks and by using the site primarily for ideological battle. Those things are not allowed here, regardless of your politics, how right you are, or how right you feel you are." That's obviously about an overall pattern of behavior, no?

> A ban mechanism that eventuates in the banned user logging on and participating for 3 years before realizing no one can see their comments is a shadow ban! If you wanted it to be clear there should be some messaging besides a comment reply.

Definitional arguments aside, yes—you're making a fair point. It's on our list to fix this, perhaps with a probation system that tells people they're banned for a time period (at least at first) and then unbans them. Most people respond well to feedback, so it's possible this will help in other ways too. However, don't underestimate how much damage is caused by accounts that wilfully abuse the site and take advantage of such systems—it's hard to design something that's both fair to the majority and not so vulnerable to abuse.

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