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Re: Google Drive could soon start locking your files

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Post by dragonwriter »

BlueTemplar wrote: post #150
fallingknife wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The first amendment does apply to companies. As in they have the right to not associate with you for any reason. However, there are plenty of cases where that right has been taken from them when their services have been deemed so necessary that they must do business with the general public. e.g. the electric company can't cut you off if they don't like your politics. And until recently we had net neutrality. There is…

Net Neutrality was very shortlived in the USA though, like, a few years only ?

> Net Neutrality was very shortlived in the USA though, like, a few years only ?

That is...not accurate.

Net neutrality was FCC policy enforced by case-by-case action from 2005 until a couple such actions were struck down by courts in 2010 as requiring regulation. After that,the FCC adopted them as regulation in the 2010 Open Internet Order (which had been being drafted before the ruling); certain parts of the 2010 order were struck down by the D.C. Circuit in 2014, saying such regulations could not be applied without reclassifying ISPs as telecommunication providers under Title II rather than information service providers under Title I of the Telecommunications Act. Subsequently, the FCC adopted regulations reclassifying ISP and again imposing Net Neutrality regulations in 2015, which (with new leadership because of the Trump Administration), they withdrew in 2017.

A number of states have since adopted various net neutrality laws, including California.

While the FCC has not yet acted on it, the Biden Administration made bet neutrality executive policy in Executive Order 14036.

Re: Google Drive could soon start locking your files

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Post by BTCOG »

willcipriano wrote: post #79
beachy wrote: post #56

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Perhaps I'm sensitive as a NZer, but would you feel the same if the deleted document was a plan for a nuclear weapon etc? Though while giving a warning is clearly inappropriate, they should certainly have explained what they did.

Nuclear weapons aren't all that complicated, it's the enrichment that is hard. It's a large scale industrial process that requires a well equiped specialized facility. We can detect these activities from space, that's how big we are talking. You can get a rough idea of what is needed from Wikipedia. They are simpler machines than a automobile engine, at least in the sense that there are fewer parts involved.

Yes, and you can legally and readily get all the information for all steps of the manufacture.

As far as encryptions and data go I just echo that "not your drive, not your data" remains true and that encryption is not going to stop a cloud provider from deleting your encrypted content. Feels like I've been saying this for 10 years now (I have) but I truly do not believe cloud use is the future for computing. Drives and mass storage are always getting cheaper.

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Post by morpheos137 »

vorpalhex wrote: post #66
beachy wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perhaps I'm sensitive as a NZer, but would you feel the same if the deleted document was a plan for a nuclear weapon etc? Though while giving a warning is clearly inappropriate, they should certainly have explained what they did.

The video of the christchurch shooter is a primary source for a historical event, in the same way that combat footage is. When primary sources are not available to the public then lies have the same footing as truth.

Recently I have discovered that google has nuked hundreds of North Korean videos. This upsets me as needless destruction of the historical record. I wonder how people would feel if something like google was around after world war II and censored hundreds of videos of nazi atrocities. It is wrong for a public forum like Youtube or public resource like google drive to restrict content based on subject matter with very few limited exceptions. All political and war footage should be free from restriction.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2017/09/14...

Stimme Koreas is now gone too.

Re: Google Drive could soon start locking your files

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Post by morpheos137 »

ktkoffroth wrote: post #63
beachy wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perhaps I'm sensitive as a NZer, but would you feel the same if the deleted document was a plan for a nuclear weapon etc? Though while giving a warning is clearly inappropriate, they should certainly have explained what they did.

Video of a tragedy, while deplorable, is not on the same planet as plans for a nuclear weapon. Are you also of the opinion that thing like live leak should not exist/be accessible?

You do know that liveleak shut down this year, right? We are truly entering an era of restricted speech.

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Post by 2OEH8eoCRo0 »

deadalus wrote: post #6

I will never forget that the Christchurch shooting video was automatically deleted from users' PRIVATE Google Drive and Dropbox - no warnings were given and no explanation was presented.

Users? You mean Google's storage space that they allow people to use.

Re: Google Drive could soon start locking your files

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Post by indigodaddy »

2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote: post #156
deadalus wrote: post #6

I will never forget that the Christchurch shooting video was automatically deleted from users' PRIVATE Google Drive and Dropbox - no warnings were given and no explanation was presented.

Users? You mean Google's storage space that they allow people to use.

Yes users of a service, whether one is paying with one’s personal data, or whether one pays with their personal data AND a yearly fee for a bit more storage, as I do— they are users.

Re: Google Drive could soon start locking your files

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Post by cdumler »

Workaccount2 wrote: post #12

I have, uh, mp3 backups of all the music I have owned from my, um, ludicrously massive CD collection. Is it worth the risk that google might one day decide I am a pirate and block my account?

Risk is something you have to answer. What are you going to have to do go to get your data and find:

* A few songs have been removed, here and there, such you can't easily determine what has been removed. * Whole albums or your collection is removed. * Your account is disabled and you loose everything related to Google, including all other stored files, email, calendar, Android apps, music and video purchases, etc.

It's not your service, it's Google's. You're only renting access until they decide you're not.

If you are going to use cloud for backup, always use an encrypted backup so they have no idea what you're storing. I highly suggest considering using `rclone` to mount Google Drive. I've had mixed luck with using the encryption module. I would highly suggest `restic`, as it's very easy to backup and restore files.

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Post by vorpalhex »

morpheos137 wrote: post #153
vorpalhex wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The video of the christchurch shooter is a primary source for a historical event, in the same way that combat footage is. When primary sources are not available to the public then lies have the same footing as truth.

Recently I have discovered that google has nuked hundreds of North Korean videos. This upsets me as needless destruction of the historical record. I wonder how people would feel if something like google was around after world war II and censored hundreds of videos of nazi atrocities. It is wrong for a public forum like Youtube or public resource like google drive to restrict content based on subject matter with very…

It's never too late to join the digital hoarding initiative.

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Post by pyuser583 »

Majestic121 wrote: post #72
beachy wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perhaps I'm sensitive as a NZer, but would you feel the same if the deleted document was a plan for a nuclear weapon etc? Though while giving a warning is clearly inappropriate, they should certainly have explained what they did.

Why would you delete historical footage ? No one would even think to destroy or censor the footage from Auschwitz

During WWII, Roosevelt and Churchill new about the holocaust and actively censored it from the press.

They didn’t want political pressure to stop it.

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