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Re: TikTok streaming software is an illegal fork of OBS

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No it doesn't that's not how GPL (or any license) works. What happens is that it's a breach of contract (licenses are contracts) which lead to an termination that contract (1) (license) which grants the usage rights (copyright) for the software. Which leads a company to (roughly) following choices: - start complying with the license in time "before" the license gets invalidated - buy a proprietary license from the li…

In option 1, when does the license get invalidated? Is it invalidated in the first place because the offending software broke the license? Or is it invalidated after notification from OBS? Or even later, after some amount of time after notification and non-correction? If it's violated before notification, then option 1 is not possible, and option 2 is at the discretion of OBS, so option 3 is the only real legal outco…

https://lwn.net/Articles/61292/ provides a great explanation

> There is no provision in the Copyright Act to require distribution of infringing work on altered terms. What copyright plaintiffs are entitled to, under the Act, are damages, injunctions to prevent infringing distribution, and--where appropriate--attorneys' fees. A defendant found to have wrongfully included GPL'd code in its own proprietary work can be mulcted in damages for the distribution that has already occurred, and prevented from distributing its product further. That's a sufficient disincentive to make wrongful use of GPL'd program code. And it is all that the Copyright Act permits.

Re: TikTok streaming software is an illegal fork of OBS

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People expecting OBS to get millions from this are naïve. Almost certainly TikTok will change the software to just use OBS independently to avoid the issue. If OBS wants money they should use a dual license.

I imagine that OBS merely want others to abide by their license.

Re: TikTok streaming software is an illegal fork of OBS

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People are misunderstanding this and claiming it's not problematic. Ben Torrell (an OBS developer) notes later in the thread that there is indeed GPL code compiled into TikTok's executables; since source is not available and they have not got another license, it is unlicensed and hence illegal.

It is absolutely problematic. Corporations will go to hell and back to make sure their IP rights are respected. The open source community should expect nothing less from them.

Re: TikTok streaming software is an illegal fork of OBS

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post #48

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Can concur, courts don't know jack about tech and have to rely on experts that aren't always independent.

Rebutting the argument doesn't rely on tech knowledge. “But, your honour, I didn't copy this person's book! I used the autocomplete on my phone, and it just so happened to produce their 500 000 word novel!” You need tech knowledge to think that's even plausible . Sure, they wouldn't dismiss it out of hand (I think “laughed out of court” is a figure of speech), but I wouldn't be surprised if it got a few giggles.

This would be more like GPT-3 completing a specific novel.

Re: TikTok streaming software is an illegal fork of OBS

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post #232

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That's pretty fast for a beta released yesterday. Are the devs actively monitoring and reverse engineering every binary released that related to streaming? Also, where can I get the live studio executable? None of the links I found works, is that public release?

I'm the one on the OBS team who originally found this. I saw a tweet yesterday from someone that's in the beta, and as with any desktop live streaming software (and especially with "Studio" in the name) I was curious if they were using any OBS Studio code or if it was developed all in-house. The download link is available in their JS, you can find the most recent installer link here: https://tron-sg.bytelemon.com/api…

Reminds me how I caught someone stealing my mod code. Same variable names, and whereas I used spaces for indentation when most used tabs, this guy also coincidently also used spaces in the same areas.

I challenged him on it and he played dumb.

Thanks for reading my blog :)

Re: TikTok streaming software is an illegal fork of OBS

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post #189

How do we make sure people invoking China-stealing-intellectual-property-yet-again don’t pile on this thread? If this is a case of a company wrongfully using IP we need to very much have a discussion about that topic alone.

You can flag such comments.

Re: TikTok streaming software is an illegal fork of OBS

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post #180

How can you be so inept that you're literally stealing software, but are too incompetent to properly obfuscate it?

I find it amusing that there are (at the moment) 8 comments that label this "stealing", as does the submitted Tweet, with no one objecting to that terminology.

Whenever such usage comes up when movie or music piracy is discussed any such usage is quickly objected to.

Anyone want to have a go at trying to distinguish the two?

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