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Why keeping up with RSS is poisonous to productivity, sanity

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Re: Why keeping up with RSS is poisonous to productivity, sanity

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> I combined that with my usual e-mail communications (tips from readers, conversations with PR folks from different companies, interviews already in progress, etc.) and my regular scans of Twitter in order to figure out what was going on during the day. It was stress-free, and I never felt like I was missing anything—I knew that if something truly important or controversial blew up, I'd hear about it instantly via Twitter and our loyal readers.

> Sam Stephenson, a programmer at 37signals, agreed. "I gave up on RSS a couple of years ago when I realized it was just another unread indicator in my dock, another number to zero out," Stephenson told Ars. "If an article or link is important it almost always shows up in my Twitter stream, or on one of the handful of websites I check throughout the day."

I think I see the problem here.

Re: Why keeping up with RSS is poisonous to productivity, sanity

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post #2

"Making a conscious (or unconscious, as the case may be) decision to scan through 20-something RSS items a few times per hour means that you're constantly interrupting what you were doing in order to perform another task." Okay, I call shens on this whole article. Using RSS means that I speed-read over a few hundred article headers during half an hour over coffee and pop open around a dozen articles to read in full.…

For me it was the following two comments. It just showed me this was the type of person who is obsessed with following the latest news and keeping up with all their feeds. It's an edge use-case, and not one I subscribe to (pun intended).

I combined that with my usual e-mail communications and my regular scans of Twitter in order to figure out what was going on during the day.

Twitter is basically an RSS feed, and many people even more obsessively than coffee.

Others may say that they can avoid the all-day-long RSS time suck by only opening their clients once per day, but I argue that it still piles up redundant content that you now have to waste time going through all at once.

Of course, Twitter never has redundant content or an echo-chamber effect.

Re: Why keeping up with RSS is poisonous to productivity, sanity

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post #21

> I combined that with my usual e-mail communications (tips from readers, conversations with PR folks from different companies, interviews already in progress, etc.) and my regular scans of Twitter in order to figure out what was going on during the day. It was stress-free, and I never felt like I was missing anything—I knew that if something truly important or controversial blew up, I'd hear about it instantly via T…

Why on earth would you actually check a handful of sites throughout the day if you have RSS? That's what it's supposed to help with. You just have one site (or app), and check that whenever your code is compiling (or whatever), and _it_ checks all the other sites for you.

Actually opening up websites to see if they have something new feels horribly inefficient.

Re: Why keeping up with RSS is poisonous to productivity, sanity

#25

I just use FeedSpeak ( http://feedspeak.tk ) - an app that reads your RSS feeds to you, so you can listen to articles while doing other things.

Unless they've got Morgan Freeman or Tom Waits or Garrison Keillor doing the reading, I'm not sure how you can stand this.

I'm not just being cheeky, either; is listening to voice fonts for extended periods and for complex material just something you have to warm up to?

Re: Why keeping up with RSS is poisonous to productivity, sanity

#26
There's nothing wrong with RSS - it's how you use it.

I use Google Reader, and check my feed once, and at most twice a day, not constantly.

I have set the items to collapsed form, and only read the items that are interesting, reducing the time I spent reading through everything, which is a natural filter to block out noise. This way at the end of the day, I have about three or four articles to read. RSS is useful because it lets me choose what I want to read from a ton of incoming stuff.

If you are developing an RSS reader, the intention of the app should not be to ping the user constantly, instead focus on enabling user productivity by letting him/her choose when to check the RSS feed, and optimize reading by letting the user filter through stuff easily - i.e. maximum productivity for the user.

Re: Why keeping up with RSS is poisonous to productivity, sanity

#27
Enter PostRank:

http://www.postrank.com/feed/

For every RSS feed you will get 4 RSS sub-feeds:

1. Best posts.

2. Great posts.

3. Good posts.

4. All posts.

The ranking (to decide if a post is good/great/best) is done through its popularity online (reddit, digg, delicious, etc.).

When I'm interested in a website I usually subscribe to the best posts sub-feed, sometimes to the great posts sub-feed. This way I'm never overloaded with RSS items to read and I don't miss anything important.

Here are ultra-filtered HN sub-feeds using a feed of HN posts of 150 votes or above:

http://www.postrank.com/feed/20ad1f84cfa8acedf528c616cd441f6...

Also, here is a JavaScript bookmarklet I created to find the PostRank sub-feeds for the current website you're on:

  javascript:location.href='http://page2rss.com/page?url=+encodeURIComponent(location.href);
EDIT: ReFilter is also very useful if you want to only read posts about a particular topic:

http://re.rephrase.net/filter/

Re: Why keeping up with RSS is poisonous to productivity, sanity

#28
Swapping out RSS for twitter is illogical. They are both RSS but Twitter doesn't have an unread count.

The article instead should have pointed to content browsing solutions that replicate the experience of a newspaper for quick exploration leading to deeper reading.

Re: Why keeping up with RSS is poisonous to productivity, sanity

#29
post #14

The issue with RSS is that you can't put advertisements in it else it'd lose all value. So RSS is not a good thing for sites such as Ars. In the end you're going to have 3-10 RSS feeds to read max and they're exactly the same ones as the 3-10 sites you were going o read, except you can easily see headlines . Instead of putting 200 RSS feeds, which is clearly just as dumb as reading 200 sites (in fact its still easier…

> The issue with RSS is that you can't put advertisements in it else it'd lose all value. So RSS is not a good thing for sites such as Ars.

Yes and no. While you'll be less exposed to ads than while visiting the site, RSS also lets the site push content to the user, which can lead to more pageviews than if he had to remember to visit it.

Re: Why keeping up with RSS is poisonous to productivity, sanity

#30
I'm personally torn on RSS readers. Admittedly, I'm an almost entirely unproductive person lately, so I can't claim that it's because RSS is getting in the way of other things. My chief suspicion is that as the number of subscriptions goes up, the propensity to fly through headlines rises as well, and so too does the efficiency of applying whatever criteria normally applies in choosing whether or not to read past a headline. What normally would be signal gets converted to noise because of the quantity needed to be consumed. Of course, one can always lower the number of subscriptions, but on the other hand, as one approaches lower bounds, the less sense RSS makes: one can simply and probably with more aesthetic pleasure, just make rounds to the website. Another point: there's more information and more of interest in a website than what gets printed as words in an article or in the images or whatever media that accompanies that article. And this is another suspicious element of RSS readers: they divorce content from the context in which it "originally" appears (scare quotes because of complexity). One can learn a good lot of important stuff about a content provider by looking at that provider's website, layout, design, ad priorities, etc. And not only about that provider, but about just what the hell the web looks like these days. If all I did was read via RSS, I'd probably have no clue. And more over, if all anybody ever did was read via RSS, websites themselves would be something else entirely and that something else probably wouldn't be much to look at.

So really that's two chief suspicions: one, it's hard to find an optimal number of subscriptions (or even if there is such a thing); and two, RSS annihilates the experience of everything it can't contain.

(I said I was torn, but I think I've started to convince myself that maybe I need to ditch Google Reader...)

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