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Re: Kinesis Advantage 360

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Post by tcoff91 » Fri, Dec 17, 2021, 6:21 PM UTC

Smoofer wrote: post #7

VectorLock wrote: post #4

I've been waiting a long time for this and getting hyped at their Twitter drip feed but damn preorders open December 20th for potential delivery in MAY.

Yeah, I was very close to buying an Advantage 2 in the last week. Saw this, got super excited, then realized it wouldn’t be in my hands for another 5 months

I own an advantage 2 and I will be smashing that pre-order button. I love my advantage2 so much, and this new 360 looks even better!

Re: Kinesis Advantage 360

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Post by lowmagnet » Fri, Dec 17, 2021, 6:22 PM UTC

CarVac wrote: post #20

I cannot fathom why the Kinesis keyboards don't have thumb shift by default. At least it's customizable.

Hm, Ergodox don't either, at least in the suggested default layout.

Re: Kinesis Advantage 360

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Post by dave_sid » Fri, Dec 17, 2021, 6:25 PM UTC

Kinesis Advantage keyboards saved my career. I had bad carpal tunnel syndrome. I tried evening out there. This is the only thing that remotely worked.

Re: Kinesis Advantage 360

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Post by endisneigh » Fri, Dec 17, 2021, 6:25 PM UTC

If you're seriously thinking about buying this go try the other Kinesis keyboards first. After you get in the ergonomic territory I find the comfort increases to be very marginal.

IMHO assuming you have no ergonomic setup at all you're better off buying a Kinesis Freestyle, a used Steelcase/Herman Miller chair, and a VESA mount for your monitor/laptop to make it eye level - all of which can be had for the cost of the Pro version.

That being said this looks like a very nice purchase for those who have the money to micro optimize.

Re: Kinesis Advantage 360

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Post by wellthisisgreat » Fri, Dec 17, 2021, 6:26 PM UTC

zeeb wrote: post #10

Very similar vibes to the dactyl, if you're feeling handy and interested in a little DIY... https://github.com/adereth/dactyl-keyboard

Dactyl is quite a high bar for "a little DIY" ;)

Re: Kinesis Advantage 360

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Post by dsr_ » Fri, Dec 17, 2021, 6:28 PM UTC

I don't understand the surrounding decisions.

Differentiating by wired/wireless makes sense.

Using two different programming systems? No.

ZMK instead of adding BT support to QMK? Why?

RGB underglow but not individually programmable key backlights?

For the money they are charging, all of these things should have been extremely easy decisions. Anyone have insight?

Re: Kinesis Advantage 360

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Post by inquist » Fri, Dec 17, 2021, 6:29 PM UTC

FWIW I've been quite happy with the ZSA Moonlander https://www.zsa.io/moonlander

Re: Kinesis Advantage 360

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Post by ianai » Fri, Dec 17, 2021, 6:29 PM UTC

What are the odds the pre-orders will be robbed by bots in a few seconds?

Re: Kinesis Advantage 360

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Post by stavros » Fri, Dec 17, 2021, 6:30 PM UTC

pen2l wrote: post #2

Oh, finally a big keyboard manufacturer has the cojones to move Capslock away from prime keyboard space. I have Advantage keyboard and usually wrote off physically separated keyboards, but thinking more about it now, I do wish my Advantage's two splits were angled a liiiittle more. So, I'll probably get this 360. I do hope however that us_intl layout becomes more widespread and the AltGr modifier key is universally p…

> cajones

I don't think a lack of drawers was the problem!

Re: Kinesis Advantage 360

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Post by db65edfc7996 » Fri, Dec 17, 2021, 6:32 PM UTC

Sadly, no dedicated F-row. I would even settle for a subset of keys that aligned with the columns. I do not consider layers an adequate replacement.

Happy to see they are moving away from their own software configuration. Not a fan of the software interface on the Freestyle Pro. More than once I have gotten myself into a loop where I am unsure which function mode is activated and how to switch back to what I want.

I am still likely to get this once it is out, but still not the "end game" keyboard of my dreams.